How many 2nd year apprentices have a fax machine?

How many 2nd year apprentices have a fax machine?

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George Stolz said:
I can come up with all sorts of other things. I only have two pairs of work pants, I need new boots, I can't use the elevator on the job without it being cardboarded off and asking permission, there's no free wi-fi access in the parking lot, I can't get cell reception in the basement...

Edit to add: Kind of a goofy poll, Pete. :)
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Sounds about normal with todays punk a** wannabe's
 
Well for all you high tech rednecks, why don't you try sending a fax out of your fax / modem card if available.

I'm not talking about the printer software that might handle it.
I'm talking about the just the simple application of using a fax/modem card. That consists of standard and usually minor computer supplied software.
Here's what you might find:

1.) It will not always be WUSIWUG. the receiving end might not look the same, lenght of page might change (format - layout, Etc), and can be as bad as shrinkage.
(Granted the machines have caught up via computer and computer like interfaces, but just like other things people have and like there various models.)

2.) If in a works file the best is to save as, file to RTF (rich text format) and fax that. I eliminates a lot of #1.

3.)A USER's choice of a font can also changed at the receiving end, if not done to #2.

4.)It's a good way to spot problems in your phone line ...:rolleyes:

Most of the newer fax machines handle more like a of computer and very well, but its good software and not so much the fax/modem card that needs to be addressed here.

Now granted in this just in time world, e-mail is the way.

I guess time has passed but I believe that FAXed legal documents might be more offical than an e-mail.

For shame all of us that don't know or understand all of our tools available.:confused:
 
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Well it's obvious that 60% of our correspondants feel that that very few 2nd year apprentices have fax machines.
The local PostalExpress charges ~$4.00 per fax. An un-employed 2nd year apprentice is not really in a position to spend ~$4 just to apply for a job, let alone buy a fax machine.
I shall have to investigate FaxZone.
If you type in the fax phone number into Google, the great crossword helper, it will sometimes come up with the name of the company operating the fax.
The comment about "H1-b" is interesting. I don't know what H1-b is but I assume it is some kind of legal manuvering sort of like tax loopholes.
I liked the comment about "clueless office manager". This is the most likely explanation. If you need to hire help, it would seem that you would want to have as large a selection field as possible. Stating a drug test requirement, should eliminate a lot of riff-raff. Benefits may or may not be important. Eliminating all those who do not have a fax machine is a stupid criterion.
There is no difference between "whining" and pointing out an often unneccesary obstacle.
~Peter
 
Isn't a fax these days considered so, well, Ninetys? I would think one-line apps would be all the rage these days.

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I have fax as a printer option. Just plug the phone cord in the back and it works. It's an XP thing. In Win98 you have to download the fax thingy from the installation disk, but it is there.

If you want the job bad enough, there is a way to fax a resume. If not, oh well....I am sure the next guy in line will figure it out.
 
480sparky said:
Isn't a fax these days considered so, well, Ninetys? I would think one-line apps would be all the rage these days.
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Yeah, I would be really impressed to see a 2nd year apprentice turn in a one-line diagram for a resume. ;) :D
 
peter said:
Well it's obvious that 60% of our correspondants feel that that very few 2nd year apprentices have fax machines.
The local PostalExpress charges ~$4.00 per fax. An un-employed 2nd year apprentice is not really in a position to spend ~$4 just to apply for a job, let alone buy a fax machine.
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Are you serious?

$4.00 is to much to spend to apply to a job that will require at least $100 in tools to do?

There is no difference between "whining" and pointing out an often unneccesary obstacle.
~Peter
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If a second year apprentice looks at this fax 'requirement' as a show stopper I have no interest in working with them.

Construction work is all about problem solving, if they can't solve this issue I have little confidence they can find there way out the front door in the morning.
 
I have used this free service for years. www.k7.net
You can recieve faxes as emails and save them or print them out.
You can also check faxes on line, view the fax on your cell phone or forward them.
The only catch is that if you go a month without using it, they cancel the service and you have to sign up again.
 
mdshunk said:
I agree. This might be their way of sorting the wheat from the chaff.


Oh, my! I hope you care. Beggers can't be choosers, but if you're not a begger, you want to work for a well-run company. At least, I hope you do. The ideal job interview consists of the candidate asking as many questions about the company as the interviewer asks the candidate about himself.
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No, I do not care, because I'm not applying! If we aren't applying for a job with a company that requires you to fax in a resume--or whatever it may be--then why should we care about how they run their company. "So what" if they want applicants to send in a resume by fax! How does this have an effect on our purpose.
 
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Just goto the job service. They can fax resumes for you. Or just look up the number on google and call their office or better yet go in person.
 
Mr. Wire,
Having been a second year apprentice myself, I know that they do not always have unlimited funds. "Construction work is all about problem solving, if they can't solve this issue I have little confidence they can find there way out the front door in the morning."
It is true the problem could be simply solved by submissively spending the ~$4 or even spending ~$80 at Fry's for a fax machine, but the deeper question is: Why is there a problem in the first place?
Senator Robert Kennedy once wrote a book entitled "Why Not the Best?". I never read it but I like the title. Can't we expect a little more intuition on the part of those who are supposedly running or helping run a business?
For instance, if you have a logjam, you could send out a crew with pikes and they could clear it up. But if it keeps on happening in the same spot, you should go out there and see the bottle-neck and do something about it.
~Peter
 
quogueelectric said:
Smoke signals used to be an acceptable method of communication I dont think they are asking too much for a faxed resume.
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