hardworkingstiff
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Thanks for letting us know the outcome Joe. Good luck getting the work.
How to price supervision task?
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Thanks for letting us know the outcome Joe. Good luck getting the work.
jjhoward
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- Owner TJ Electric
I really need the details of the units.
This guy explained that his crew usually can do about 1.5 units/day!
I am thinking:
They are not very accessable.
or there is over abundance of hardware holding them in place??
They are for hotel rooms, how big could they be??
The devil is in those damn details.
This guy explained that his crew usually can do about 1.5 units/day!
I am thinking:
They are not very accessable.
or there is over abundance of hardware holding them in place??
They are for hotel rooms, how big could they be??
The devil is in those damn details.
So tell him the law prohibits you from renting your licence and your hourly rate is $ . You are avilaible on these days and go from there . If they were ready to go they must have all you need on handhopefully could be a good job in the long run if he has other hotels to do
She is one sharp cookie
She is one sharp cookie
Her dad was an electrician, and she really knows her way around the codes, including the rehab codes.
quogueelectric
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- new york
You must take into consideration if the hotel is to stay in operation you will need to temp feed thru past the units as they are being worked on unless each unit has a dedicated ckt which I doubt if they are just fan coils. Just look at the job and give him a fair price and at the end of the job if you feel you made too much just give some back!
Don't know how big the units are, or how far in you have to set them, but on a large flat roof, have done mass amount of units with a helicopter before. Might want to check the price of a bird, and enough nets to stay ahead of the turn around time per pick.
Bird VS crane -check the cost.
Just some good brainstorming potentially...
Bird VS crane -check the cost.
Just some good brainstorming potentially...
petersonra
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- Northern illinois
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- engineer
That certainly seems to imply they don't have to be employees of the EC who has the license.
petersonra
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- Northern illinois
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- engineer
their employer.
The temp agency.
Power Tech
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- Lebec, California
Sounds like they get all the profit and you get all the liability. If I did contract with them I would wright up a workmanship clause that all work not to the standard of JH Electric shal be corrected by qualified personal at an hourly rate of ??? Don't sell yourself short or put yourself in the defendants seat.
Terry Power Tech
Terry Power Tech
If you check post 40 of this thread I think you see the only way hes going to get involved is by doing the job
jjhoward
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- Northern NJ
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- Owner TJ Electric
Yes, I agree that the text in the statutes re: supervision of electrical work does not explicitly say that a NJ EC can ONLY supervise HIS employees.
But when the experience speaks (through those with such experience on this forum) and the director or chief (not sure what her title is) of the NJ Board of Electrical Contractors also says ?no way, no how? then I am going with no way, no how.
The AC/heater units with air handler are all mounted in a closet in each hotel room.
Seems like the AC/heaters have their own dsco in the closet, the air handlers have a dedicated breaker in the sub panel somewhere in the hotel room.
I will post the details of the job next week.
Thank you all for the input.
But when the experience speaks (through those with such experience on this forum) and the director or chief (not sure what her title is) of the NJ Board of Electrical Contractors also says ?no way, no how? then I am going with no way, no how.
The AC/heater units with air handler are all mounted in a closet in each hotel room.
Seems like the AC/heaters have their own dsco in the closet, the air handlers have a dedicated breaker in the sub panel somewhere in the hotel room.
I will post the details of the job next week.
Thank you all for the input.
petersonra
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- Northern illinois
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- engineer
I don't know about NJ but here employees of a temp agency are employees of the temp agency. The temp agency pays their salary, pays whatever benefits they get, pays their FICA, WC, unemployment insurance, and whatever other taxes there are to be paid on them.
This is not a whole lot different than a building owner hiring a GC who subcontracts part of the work to Joe the EC. Joe's employees don't work for the GC or the building onwer.
I had an insurance company reinstate thousands of policies, because they used the wording (and or) in their contract, I guess the masters of business, were asleep in english 101.
His employees means just what it says.
growler
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- Atlanta,GA
To qualifiy as a contractor or sub contractor there must be a certain amount of autonomy. Rented employees do not have this autonomy they work under the direction of the owner or an agent of the owner. They are told when to show up for work, what tools if any to bring, when and if breaks are allowed, and are normally paid by the hour and are not under contract. The rented employees are as much under the control of the contractor as his regular full time employees during the time they are working for him.
The fact that electrical work must be done by the electrical contractor or his employees is because that is the only way he will have control over the project. Once control is established then so is responsibility. It just makes it easier to place blame if something were to go wrong.
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