I don't know what to make of this.........

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GlennH

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A CIHT (Catalyst Induced Hydrino Transition) cell generates electricity from H2O vapor that may be extracted from air. Unlike a conventional hydrogen fuel cell, the cost is forecast at under $100 per kW compared to thousands per kW for a fuel cell. This is in part due to the CIHT cell?s electrical energy released per hydrogen being over 200 times greater, and the CIHT materials being inexpensive. Moreover, fuel cells cannot utilize water as the source of hydrogen, since their product is water. For CIHT, no fuel infrastructure is required to provide on-site power allowing the CIHT cell to be autonomous
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From this web site http://www.blacklightpower.com/

And also........
Based on the hydrogen content of H2O and the electricity that can be produced from the corresponding hydrogen, the maximum theoretical range from a liter of water for a standard mid-sized car is 3000 miles. Based on projections of the CIHT cell surface power density and available materials, a 133-liter cell could deliver 200 kW or 267 HP and weigh only 133 kg, about one-third the weight of an internal combustion engine (ICE) of the same power. The total projected cost of the CIHT stack, control electronics, electric motors, and transmission, is less than the cost of the of the ICE and drive train of a conventional gasoline-fired vehicle without any fuel costs or pollution; nor, does the CIHT-powered car require an expensive, range limiting battery or electric charging as is the case of electric vehicles such as the Chevrolet Volt, Nissan Leaf, or Tesla
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http://www.blacklightpower.com/business/business-summary/


Just wondering ,what are we going to do with our existing cars and power plants and gas stations and refineries and ................
 

BJ Conner

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PT Barnum said it best.

PT Barnum said it best.

Use to be "one born every minute" - now there is at least a dozen. And you can get to them on the internet.
 

GlennH

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Use to be "one born every minute" - now there is at least a dozen. And you can get to them on the internet.

I don't know


Currently, the Company has twenty employees and fourteen consultants. The majority of employees are scientists and engineers, including six Ph.D.s.

To date, the Company has licensed the rights to produce approximately 8,250 MW of new electrical power to seven companies, including five electrical utilities and two independent power producers. Collectively, these utility companies own, purchase, or manage electric power production of approximately 7,600 MW and service nearly one million customers. The avoided fuel costs from these agreements could be in excess of $2 billion per year.

If its a scam its a good one
 

__dan

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It's not a scam.

Dr. Randell Mills has a novel theory of the electron that is deterministic. He has found that the electron can be modeled as a two dimensional great circle that is a trial solution of the Schrodinger wave equation.

The theory also predicts the hydrogen atom has energy states that are lower than the ground state. This is how he achieves excess energy yield, by a catalytic collapse of the hydrogen atom to a lower than ground state energy level and yield of the excess energy. The process in the PR Newswire release is fueled by water vapor and novel chemistry

Truly, I do not see how the electron could be a point charge. A single bound point charge in orbit, moving, about the hydrogen proton would radiate, which would make it unstable. No radiation and stability is what is observed. The electron's properties like momentum and spin in the statistical point charge model are described as non physical. The great circle shape can move about the proton, stable with no radiation, momentum and spin can be physical properties of the electron.

If you are unhappy with the statistical model of the electron, or unhappy with artificial shortages of hydrocarbon fuels, you would be looking for something like this.
 

Rampage_Rick

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I don't get it. Every fuel cell design going back to the Apollo missions combines hydrogen (or some form of hydrocarbon) and oxygen to form water, and in the process electricity is generated. Fuel cell technology dates back to 1838 (who knew??) The reason why the "hydrogen economy" has been a flop is because of the substantial amount of energy required to extract hydrogen from water or elsewhere. Hydrogen is more an energy storage medium than a fuel.

A look at Wikipedia shows the article on Blacklight Power has been up since at least 2009, but indicates the company has yet to actually generate any power with their "technology." While they do hold a few patents related to graphic modelling software, patents related to their "technology" have been withdrawn for contradicting the known laws of physics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacklight_Power

"BlackLight Power (BLP), founded 17 years ago as HydroCatalysis, announced last week that the company had successfully tested a prototype power system that would generate 50 KW of thermal power. BLP anticipates delivery of the new power system in 12 to 18 months. The BLP process, (WN 26 Apr 91) , discovered by Randy Mills, is said to coax hydrogen atoms into a "state below the ground state," called the "hydrino." There is no independent scientific confirmation of the hydrino, and BLP has a patent problem. So they have nothing to sell but bull ___. The company is therefore dependent on investors with deep pockets and shallow brains." - June 6, 2008: Robert L. Park, of the University of Maryland
This article sums up my thoughts quite succinctly: http://scientopia.org/blogs/goodmath/2011/12/29/hydrinos-impressive-free-energy-crackpottery/

For example, he once cited that his work had been verified by a researcher at Harvard. In fact, he'd had one of his associates rent a piece of equipment at Harvard, and use it for a test. So yes, it was tested by a researcher - if you count his associate as a legitimate researcher. And it was tested at Harvard. But the claim that it was tested by a researcher at Harvard is clearly meant to imply that it was tested by a Harvard professor, when it wasn't.
 
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ggunn

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I don't believe a word of it. You cannot start with water, end with water, and harvest energy from the process. Those danged Laws of Thermodynamics are always getting in the way and ought to be repealed!
 
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