Inspection failed for bonding locknut, NEC code needed please

[infinity]

I would think that would be the netural from the generator.
Looks like two ungrounded conductors and and an EGC if taped green.
I do not see a fourth wire that may be an EGC if the green taped is a neutral conductor.

Ah good eye. I think that you're correct. Maybe if the OP comes back he can post a wider shot of the entire ATS.

 

[MrTomas]

Can you provide a picture of the overall installation. If the enclosure on the right is a service disconnect I see no need for a bond bushing.
That said, the grounding electrode conductor does not need to be in the ATS IF the service disconnect is on the right

ATS on left, meter on right. (Verizon FiOS to the right of that). Cables to the generator go straight down and underground. Supply to the house panel is the cable that runs off to the right.

 

[MrTomas]

Ah good eye. I think that you're correct. Maybe if the OP comes back he can post a wider shot of the entire ATS.

 

[MrTomas]

I would think that would be the netural from the generator.
Looks like two ungrounded conductors and and an EGC if taped green.
I do not see a fourth wire that may be an EGC if the green taped is a neutral conductor.

Its hard to see because its behind everything, but the black with green tape wire is from the meter box (behind the black with red tape wire). And it lands on the ground bar in the ATS.

 

[infinity]

Its hard to see because its behind everything, but the black with green tape wire is from the meter box (behind the black with red tape wire). And it lands on the ground bar in the ATS.

Got it.

 

[electrofelon]

Fortunately the OP is in a part of the country where such weird interpretations are less common.

Cheers, Wayne

Just to continue this little aside, yeah , the "subject to physical damage" thing is way over the top absurd in many places. It seems these places often have a blanket qualification that if it is exposed, it is then STPD. I don't consider a Romex stapled right on the wall of most rooms in a dwelling to be STPD honestly.

 

[infinity]

Just to continue this little aside, yeah , the "subject to physical damage" thing is way over the top absurd in many places. It seems these places often have a blanket qualification that if it is exposed, it is then STPD. I don't consider a Romex stapled right on the wall of most rooms in a dwelling to be STPD honestly.

I agree, here in NJ it's still a common sense judgement call there is no silly local amendment. If it's in a driveway then it's obvious. If it's on the side of the house in a flower bed we'll that's obvious too. What do you think of the SE cable in post #22?

 

[electrofelon]

Just a few other comments in the install:

1. PVC expansion coupling: arguably not required, seem to be standard in some areas and hardly used another areas. They are best practice for conduits emerging from grade in my opinion.

2. That SER run is pretty sloppy, I wouldn't be hanging a picture of that on the fridge or sending it home to Mom.

 

[electrofelon]

. What do you think of the SE cable in post #22?

I wouldn't consider it subject to physical damage - although perhaps that lowest part that comes within a few inches of the ground, but if it were neatened up and that 90 tightened up a bit it would be fine.

 

[MrTomas]

You need a bonding locknut (or other device) on the offset nipple on one side if there are no concentric or eccentric KO's. Since it's already wired up look into a bonding wedge.

How would a bonding wedge fit over the wires?

 

[infinity]

How would a bonding wedge fit over the wires?

It has an opening in it. Might be better to just use a split bonding bushing.

 

[ActionDave]

Just to continue this little aside, yeah , the "subject to physical damage" thing is way over the top absurd in many places. It seems these places often have a blanket qualification that if it is exposed, it is then STPD. I don't consider a Romex stapled right on the wall of most rooms in a dwelling to be STPD honestly.

I've always considered exposed Romex the same as old guys in a Speedo, it's legal but you don't want to see that.

 

[tortuga]

ATS on left, meter on right. (Verizon FiOS to the right of that). Cables to the generator go straight down and underground. Supply to the house panel is the cable that runs off to the right.

Is that strut strap listed for SER?
If I ran SER like that here in Oregon they would probably try to give me a breathalyzer.

 

[wwhitney]

Is that strut strap listed for SER?

Is there a code section that requires that a strap used to support SER be listed?

Cheers, Wayne

 

[Tulsa Electrician]

Gotta wonder where that bare is going as well. Maybe a IBT is not required there.

 

[MrTomas]

Is that strut strap listed for SER?
If I ran SER like that here in Oregon they would probably try to give me a breathalyzer.

Here in PA they don't refer to UL listing of anything.

 

[MrTomas]

Is that strut strap listed for SER?
If I ran SER like that here in Oregon they would probably try to give me a breathalyzer.

pretty sure that strap is to keep the big romex close to the wall.

 

[MrTomas]

Gotta wonder where that bare is going as well. Maybe a IBT is not required there.

The bare wire goes here

 

[tortuga]

Is there a code section that requires that a strap used to support SER be listed?

Cheers, Wayne

338.6

 

[electrofelon]

338.6

The strut strap is most likely listed . Might not be listed for the purpose. Could be a manufacturer instructions issue too. I've never dug into them, do they State specifically what they are allowed to strap?