Jim W in Tampa
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I will try an attach file
no question about it. Need receptacle. Code cares not if ever used . On new house none are being used till moved in.
I will try an attach file
That needs a receptacle according to NEC.
It will probably never be used.
I agree...I will have to put one there next time!
On that note , when should the inspector make the call on that.. the rough or the finish?
If it's missed on rough and caught on final it still is a violation and must be corrected.
Arguments that it is a hall are easy to win,so you say its a hall then i need a light and switch.
The distance starts at door frame and can be up to but not over 6 feet
It follows the wall and even if it wacky 10 inches turns right for 5 inches and returns 10 more that is 24 and requires outlet.
As to if its solid studs, makes no differance ,still required.
Sticking up for a wrong man makes you lose respect.
I did a final on a house once and couldn't figure out how my inspector missed so many receptecales. Then I got to the truth, oh we changed the kitchen layout, oh yeah we didn't put a closet there, we moved the door, etc. They were hating life, especially since it was a solid granite back splash in the kitchen.
Steelerman, show me in the NEC where it says that an outlet is not required on a 2' wall if a door is installed and will cover it. I said that while I may not require it if I know that a door is going to cover it, doesn't mean that I shouldn't support my inspector if he does make the call, which as I'm reading is being supported by others. Door or no door, wall space is wall space.
While your are correct, I try to be as understanding as possible, I go around all day making contractors fix their mistakes I'm not really comfortable making them fix one of mine. Now if I caught it on rough and wrote it up and you chose not to fix it, then I don't have any problems with making you install it. Hey man I stuck up for you with the bar, don't make me change my mind. : ) : )
I think a couple of you guys missed what I was saying. Steelerman, show me in the NEC where it says that an outlet is not required on a 2' wall if a door is installed and will cover it. I said that while I may not require it if I know that a door is going to cover it, doesn't mean that I shouldn't support my inspector if he does make the call, which as I'm reading is being supported by others. Door or no door, wall space is wall space.
I did a final on a house once and couldn't figure out how my inspector missed so many receptecales. Then I got to the truth, oh we changed the kitchen layout, oh yeah we didn't put a closet there, we moved the door, etc. They were hating life, especially since it was a solid granite back splash in the kitchen.
Man you've got me confused. I don't see how but you do. I'm with the crowd that says that you need the outlet on a wall that is 2 feet! You were saying that you would back up the inspector even when he was wrong! I also said that a door and the way it swings has nothing to do with it. And for what it's worth, I've never had the mindset that if a door is going to hide an outlet that it shouldn't be required. Time for you to re-read the posts.
If it's 24" or more from hinges to closet, you need one.See no outlet behind the door in this bedroom.
So are you telling me that if one of your inspectors wanted me to place the only outlet that's required for a 6 foot wall behind a door (because for some reason that's the way he wants it) then you you would back him up on that, after I go above his head to you and complain about him requiring things from me that aren't in the code?The reason you're confused is becuase that's not what I was saying. What I said was, while I may not call that, if one of my inspectors did, I would back him. Meaning just because I may let it go don't call me and try to get me to override one of my inspectors. Now are we on the same page?
And I didn't feel like going back and rereading a month old thread:smile:
And I will say this Jim, you sure have changed your tune about inspectors since I first joined.
So are you telling me that if one of your inspectors wanted me to place the only outlet that's required for a 6 foot wall behind a door (because for some reason that's the way he wants it) then you you would back him up on that, after I go above his head to you and complain about him requiring things from me that aren't in the code?
Ok. Gotcha. Now I'm with you. All you had to do was say that you agreed with me.We are definitly not on the same page. I'll send you an IM.
Ok. Gotcha. Now I'm with you. All you had to do was say that you agreed with me.
Now I don't care who you are, that's funny !!!!!!!
Well, it's been said that, if you stretch a single line far enough, the ends will eventually meet.What was funny is how he and I got to that point.:smile: