Iraq work?

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jes25 said:
Someone is going to do the QA job there. I would prefer it to be someone that can make a positive influence on the health and welfare of the troops. That's all I am saying.
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Used to be be the job of an E-6 at less than 1/2 that pay, and he was already there.
 
Rob feel more then free to disagree with anyone on this forum but comments like this are not acceptable here.

robwire said:
Figures someone from San Fransico would have nothing but negative things to say.
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Where e57 from has nothing to do with anything in this thread.

Rob I see your from Jersey how is life in the mob?

I mean everyone from Jersey is 'connected' right?

See the ridiculousness of it?
 
jes25 said:
OK, Twelve service members have been electrocuted over there and countless more shocked. Good electricians are NEEDed to prevent this from continuing. The build-up of our permanent bases will continue despite peoples opnion of the war. Contractors will continue to be used and therefor good electrcians are NEEDed to properly steward our resources and ensure safe installations.

Yeah, yeah, you had to walk uphill both ways yada yada. This is the 21st century battlefield complete with AC and I-pods, like it or not.
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I think the number is up to 13 now. GI got electrocuted in the shower last week.
 
iaov said:
I think the number is up to 13 now. GI got electrocuted in the shower last week.
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Didn't we have a couple of members from Iraq asking about the installations over there? About a year ago, as I recall. I've tried to search for the threads, but I can't find them.
 
e57 said:
My point being - someone need not make $100K a year plus "Danger Pay" to do what an E-3 at $21,477.60 could do, and has done, and will do until it is safe enough for a contract to be awarded to the highest bidder. If someone thinks that "our Service Members NEED" anything - I say they should JOIN! Sure the pay sucks - many families survive on welfare at 1/4 of what some people are being paid to do the same job - without mark-up or profit on their labor.
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I agree. The amount of money being spent on defense contracting for jobs that were formerly done by service members absolutely astounds and sickens me.
 
khixxx said:
Not sure if this is good to post but the lady from KBR called looking for guys to do inspection/foreman. I think it was $98k a year I was told $87k tax free. Send a PM if your interested I will forward the number to anyone. I don't know details about the job, she just said inspecting 9000 buildings.

PS I'm not going.
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Okay, everyone seems to agree that the military are under paid and that the civilian contractors make a lot money. We also agree that there are military personnel that are trained to do electrical work and inspection. It is also a fact that there is not enough skilled electrical workers in country. That being said, there is not a huge outpouring of those volunteering to go over there. The OP was about job opportunities for electricians/inspectors in Iraq. Fair enough. Anyone interested can can send him a PM.
 
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Minuteman said:
Okay, everyone seems to agree that the military are under paid and that the civilian contractors make a lot money. We also agree that there are military personnel that are trained to do electrical work and inspection. It is also a fact that there is not enough skilled electrical workers in country. That being said, there is not a huge outpouring of those volunteering to go over there. The OP was about job opportunities for electricians/inspectors in Iraq. Fair enough. Anyone interested can can send him PM.
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The one thing that people don't consider is that it is probably cheaper for the tax payers to use a civilian for most of these jobs. The base pay maybe much higher but the commitment is much shorter. The very minute that a civilian is out of the field the pay stops ( end of contract). The tax payers did not pay to train this individual and will not be paying when he comes home ( soldiers do not stay in the field full time ). The tax payers are not paying for housing or medical for his family they didn't need to send him to boot camp or pay for his college and for sure no retirement benefits.

If anyone were to figure out the total cost to put a man in the field say as an electrical inspector then a civilian would be the better deal.

I don't care much for civilian contractors but I can see how the numbers would crunch.
 
growler said:
The one thing that people don't consider is that it is probably cheaper for the tax payers to use a civilian for most of these jobs. The base pay maybe much higher but the commitment is much shorter. The very minute that a civilian is out of the field the pay stops ( end of contract). The tax payers did not pay to train this individual and will not be paying when he comes home ( soldiers do not stay in the field full time ). The tax payers are not paying for housing or medical for his family they didn't need to send him to boot camp or pay for his college and for sure no retirement benefits.

If anyone were to figure out the total cost to put a man in the field say as an electrical inspector then a civilian would be the better deal.

I don't care much for civilian contractors but I can see how the numbers would crunch.
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Exactly!!!

We get

NO money for college

NO health Ins. (pay for your own and it sucks)

NO retirment benefits

NO housing allowance

AND you can be fired NO strings attached.

The pay for a journeyman electrician is only 14.91 an hour plus uplift on the first 40 hours per week. First 40 hours = 25$ an hour. OT 14.91$ an hour.

IMO, the pay is too low to attract quality electricians. That is a pay cut for most guys I know. The only reason it's worth it is because you have no living expenses.

The DOD's lack of oversight and companys seeking to make money with complete disregard for quality is the biggest issue IMO.
 
Iraq Work

Iraq Work

Sounds interesting, if momma would allow it,,lol. Do they allow you to carry anything for self defense? I mean come on, in some places "anytown USA" can be more dangerous than some places over according to my"Jarhead" who just returned. It's been a few years but I think I could still qualify if I had too,,, even without the glasses.
 
As a former Service Member - I have to say this is completely untrue!
Do they "NEED" air conditioning, a chow hall, and power for their video games - NO.... Will they thank you for it, or the Kentucky Fried Chicken, or Taco Bell you built right next to the Chow Hall - sure they will.... 'NEED' I say not. These projects and your presence are just one more thing to protect when it comes down to it, and in total - money out of their over-all budgets when it really comes down to it. Remember these are personnel who are trained to sleep under the stars sans a blanket if in a "field" condition (I did - ten men to a tent on the ground in Somalia, lucky man got a cot - the Grunts didn't even have a tent) - all the "Garrison" creature comforts we're building there are unnecessary - and technically a political blight and liability in the eyes of the local population. JMSO
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I also served, and was involved in Operation Restore hope---while later being involved in the Golf War during it's conclusion. I was in UAE, and KFC was my first stop :) --------Yet, it did not tast like chicken:confused: :grin:

I also spent some time in Bahrain.
 
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jes25 said:
Exactly!!!

We get

NO money for college
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Neither do they, they get a match for money they put into a fund, google GI Bill if you think the military gets free $ for college.

jes25 said:
NO health Ins. (pay for your own and it sucks)
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You dont know what sucks until you have been to a VA or military hospital, you have it made.

jes25 said:
NO retirment benefits
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You do 20 years you get about 50% of a welfare qualifing wage, 30 years, 100% of that crappy wage, SS is better, and we know how that gov program works.

jes25 said:
NO housing allowance
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Ever been in militray barracks? Didnt think so, best part is betting on which roach is last to disapear when you turn the lights on

jes25 said:
AND you can be fired NO strings attached.
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Much worse than being fired at, you spoiled brat

jes25 said:
The DOD's lack of oversight and companys seeking to make money with complete disregard for quality is the biggest issue IMO.
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No the issue is this country is full of pampered brats that are coddled, hugged, and told how special they are for participating and have no idea what the words honor, courage, or integrity mean. Thats the issue.
 
Update: Lady just called me back, the rate went up $10,600 a month. You have to have a license. If you have a masters license and supervisory background I think I think she said it was $14,400 a month. So if you have bad teeth and need them fixed she told me they do that before they send you over seas. Not sure what that is about. They pay for everything. 3 meals a day, and place to stay. I passed again.

Send me a PM if you need the contact info. I saved it this time :)
 
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