Kitchen Circuits for New Home

They make boxes big enough and pigtail it out with 12.
In my area #10 Solid Aluminum was hooked around brass terminals, and worked for years, until jokers came along with pigtails that burned up.

Undersized purple wirenuts are the worst. Copper pigtails are hardly better, with Owner Builders doing 90% of remodels.
You must have some hellacious rivals in good old California. ..because I’ve never seen any of the type of work you complain about.
I can't believe Owner-Builder permits, and GC laborer shops, are exclusive to California
 

“California is like a beautiful wild kid on heroin, high as a kite and thinking she's on top of the world, not knowing she's dying, not believing it even if you show her the marks.”​


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Of course not, if you’re the one molesting existing construction

It all looks good from your house

I don’t molest.

Well, that’s not exactly true. Let me rephrase that. I don’t “molest existing construction“. 😳

I may look into it though.

You seem to have some very unique issues in the LA area. I suppose they could be true for that bizarre area, but I don’t know anyone who has encountered much of what you talk about.

I’m not even entirely sure LA is part of the US anymore. I kind of wish some other country would annex it.
 
Put it in the basement under the kitchen. I would think you would still be extremely close to where the circuits are feeding
Good idea! The sub-panel would be about 60' away from the main panel (directly across the basement). It would handle the electric range (50A), electric dryer (30A), two SABC's (20A each), refrig (20A), dishwasher/disposal (20A), microwave (20A), and laundry (20A), for a total of 10 spaces. Would a 125A breaker on a 1/0 AL SER feeder work for this?
 
Good idea! The sub-panel would be about 60' away from the main panel (directly across the basement). It would handle the electric range (50A), electric dryer (30A), two SABC's (20A each), refrig (20A), dishwasher/disposal (20A), microwave (20A), and laundry (20A), for a total of 10 spaces. Would a 125A breaker on a 1/0 AL SER feeder work for this?
Take a look at this similar thread:

 
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Take a look at this similar thread:

1/0 Al SER is rated for 120A @ 75 deg. You can’t use the 83% rule unless it’s feeding the entire structure.
 
Good idea! The sub-panel would be about 60' away from the main panel (directly across the basement). It would handle the electric range (50A), electric dryer (30A), two SABC's (20A each), refrig (20A), dishwasher/disposal (20A), microwave (20A), and laundry (20A), for a total of 10 spaces. Would a 125A breaker on a 1/0 AL SER feeder work for this?
I think if calculate it, you’ll find that #1AL on 100A will be adequate. Maybe even #2 on a 90.
 
Good idea! The sub-panel would be about 60' away from the main panel (directly across the basement). It would handle the electric range (50A), electric dryer (30A), two SABC's (20A each), refrig (20A), dishwasher/disposal (20A), microwave (20A), and laundry (20A), for a total of 10 spaces. Would a 125A breaker on a 1/0 AL SER feeder work for this?
This subpanel will carry much of the load for the entire house. The only loads remaining are heating, AC and lights.
 
ChatGPT told me #2 on 90A is undersized, and it suggested 1/0 and 125A. I didn't know they made #1 SER cable.
Don't trust ChatGPT for much. When I do a load calc, it comes to about 70A. So 90A feeder would be fine. Could do #4 copper on an 80A or 90A breaker, #3 copper on a 100A, #2 AL on a 90A.1/0 AL on a 125A would be overkill.
 
1/0 Al SER is rated for 120A @ 75 deg. You can’t use the 83% rule unless it’s feeding the entire structure.
Don't need the 83% rule. 120 amps is not a standard size so next size up rule would allow 125 amp over current protection.
 
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