Legal Raceway???

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Actually, no it is not listed as a raceway. All of the raceway Articles in section 3XX.6 state the raceway "and associated fittings shall be listed." In my opinion, the gate post is part of the structure of the gate assembly and fishing the Type UF cable in it would be considered the hollow part of the structure. :smile:
 
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Dave Richards said:
Is a hollow post(pipe) for an outside gate considered an approved raceway?
The post has a cap on it making it "weather-proof".
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No.

Article 100-Raceway.
An enclosed channel of metal or nonmetallic
materials designed expressly for holding wires, cables, or
busbars, with additional functions as permitted in this
Code. Raceways include, but are not limited to, rigid metal
conduit, rigid nonmetallic conduit, intermediate metal conduit,
liquidtight flexible conduit, flexible metallic tubing,
flexible metal conduit, electrical nonmetallic tubing,
electrical metallic tubing, underfloor raceways, cellular
concrete floor raceways, cellular metal floor raceways,
surface raceways, wireways, and busways.
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110.8 Wiring Methods.
Only wiring methods recognized
as suitable are included in this Code. The recognized methods
of wiring shall be permitted to be installed in any type
of building or occupancy, except as otherwise provided in
this Code.
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300.1 Scope.
(A) All Wiring Installations. This article covers wiring
methods for all wiring installations unless modified by
other articles.
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Although if for some strange reason the hollow post is part of a listed assembly, and the hollow post was designed and listed for such use, then it may be okay to use it similarly to a race way (but it is not a raceway as defined by the NEC) . From the sounds of your brief description it does not appear that this would apply.

110.3(B)(B) Installation and Use.
Listed or labeled equipment
shall be installed and used in accordance with any instructions
included in the listing or labeling.
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300.3(A) Single Conductors. Single conductors specified in Table 310.13(A) shall only be installed where part of a recognized wiring method of Chapter 3.
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In my opinion, you must put single conductors in a raceway; however, if you are using a cable like Type UF, you most certainly can enter a post in the same manner as entering a street light column which is also not a raceway. :smile:
 
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Pierre C Belarge said:
Charlie and IBEW441bc have both provided good information on the types of listed raceways/wiring methods. I also see some who like to use mullions from window frames or gazebos as raceways as well.
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Again if the wiring method is cable I can certainly run it in a mullion. :smile:
 
Considering the posts above, can you change the gate post to RMC or IMC? ;)

Roger
 
roger said:
Considering the posts above, can you change the gate post to RMC or IMC? ;)

Roger
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Maybe???? Maybe Not?????I've looked all over (NEC and Whitebook) and I don't think listed RMC or IMC is intended to support a fence and/or gate.:wink: I'm sure somebody could get creative though...

300.11(B) Raceways Used as Means of Support.
Raceways shall be used only as a means of support for other raceways,
cables, or nonelectrical equipment under any of the
following conditions:
(1) Where the raceway or means of support is identified for
the purpose
(2) Where the raceway contains power supply conductors
for electrically controlled equipment and is used to support
Class 2 circuit conductors or cables that are solely
for the purpose of connection to the equipment control
circuits
(3) Where the raceway is used to support boxes or conduit
bodies in accordance with 314.23 or to support luminaires
in accordance with 410.36(E)
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Did you really think I was serious? See the wink. :wink:
Maybe my delivery was better than I thought. :D

Roger
 
Pierre C Belarge said:
Charlie and IBEW441bc have both provided good information on the types of listed raceways/wiring methods. I also see some who like to use mullions from window frames or gazebos as raceways as well.
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do you mean that you have seen something of the nature of THHN run in window mullions?I thought NM/B was bad enough....I guess you have probably seen it all.
 
weressl said:
No, but you can use a wiring method that deos not require a raceway :smile:
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I would just like to add that here the door and window frames are part of a hurricane rated assembly and drilling and fishing cable through these would first require RFI's to structural engineers and the manufacturer.
 
charlie said:
Jesse, in light of his previous post, I don't believe that is what he meant. :smile:
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Charlie
I was in a CVS store. The installer had EMT installed to the mullion. So, yes I have seen where an installer has used the mullion as a raceway.

Another time, I saw the installer use the mullion for a gazebo to run THHN up to the light fixture at the top of the gazebo...his response " how do I get the wire to the fixture without anyone seeing it?"
 
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