Legrand Adorn product review requests?…

[KronikT]

I’m considering installing the legrand adorn under cabinet system and wanted some honest feed back from those with experience installing the product. Pros…cons…take aways? I’d like to hear what you have to say about it. My application would be a hardwired installation, so if you’ve done it please share your opinion with me.

 

[brantmacga]

I’ve installed many. I don’t really have any cons, other than I wish they’d offer a USB-C module to replace the old USB-A module. It’s a good product. Make sure you spend a lot of time reviewing the drawings and component options to understand what’s available to you.

The lighting & accessory rail share a neutral, and I recommend you use 14/3 for that on a 15A circuit. And you’ll have an additional 12/2 for receps.


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[KronikT]

I’ve installed many. I don’t really have any cons, other than I wish they’d offer a USB-C module to replace the old USB-A module. It’s a good product. Make sure you spend a lot of time reviewing the drawings and component options to understand what’s available to you.

The lighting & accessory rail share a neutral, and I recommend you use 14/3 for that on a 15A circuit. And you’ll have an additional 12/2 for receps.


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Will everything not work off of (1)12/2?

 

[KronikT]

I’ve installed many. I don’t really have any cons, other than I wish they’d offer a USB-C module to replace the old USB-A module. It’s a good product. Make sure you spend a lot of time reviewing the drawings and component options to understand what’s available to you.

The lighting & accessory rail share a neutral, and I recommend you use 14/3 for that on a 15A circuit. And you’ll have an additional 12/2 for receps.


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Can you use the under cab led lights without a driver? I see that they connect right to a receptacle module but also see where they show the lights attaching to the driver? If I could get it to work I’d like to just connect off of a receptacle module and for go the driver connections.

 

[KronikT]

Will everything not work off of (1)12/2?

Never mind I see now after reading a bit that they specify three circuits from panel. I am not following why the accessory circuit and lighting g circuit can’t be the same circuit?

 

[tank728]

Never mind I see now after reading a bit that they specify three circuits from panel. I am not following why the accessory circuit and lighting g circuit can’t be the same circuit?

I believe they can be the same circuit. Hence the 14/3 wire that post #2 suggested. It's basically a constant hot and a switch leg. The switch leg services the lights, and the constant hot serves the accessories, like tablet charger or speakers. Or whatever else is available in the adorne collection

 

[brantmacga]

I believe they can be the same circuit. Hence the 14/3 wire that post #2 suggested. It's basically a constant hot and a switch leg. The switch leg services the lights, and the constant hot serves the accessories, like tablet charger or speakers. Or whatever else is available in the adorne collection

Yes. This is correct


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[KronikT]

Yes. This is correct


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I might still be confused…if someone can clarify it’d help me understand.
So I got that I need a 12/2 for the receptacles.
My plan was to install a 2gang control box with a gfci and a dimmer switch. What I’m not clear on is the need for a 14/3? If I have the switch can I use a 14/2 wire to feed constant power to the accessory rail and the switch would then control the lights? My next thought is that I don’t think I will have any accessor that require power, why couldn’t I just run the lights and receptacles off of one 12/2? My guess is that the lighting components aren’t rated at 20 amps…thank you thank you

 

[brantmacga]

When you said hardwired, I assumed you meant the actual hard-wire junction box. If you’re installing the switch at the Under Cabinet Power strip, one circuit is fine.


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[KronikT]

When you said hardwired, I assumed you meant the actual hard-wire junction box. If you’re installing the switch at the Under Cabinet Power strip, one circuit is fine.


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When you said hardwired, I assumed you meant the actual hard-wire junction box. If you’re installing the switch at the Under Cabinet Power strip, one circuit is fine.


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This is what I plan on using to bring my feed into and out of.
Are we talking about the same scenario?
Can I use one 20 amp circuit to supply both the gfci and the switch?
The switch will then control the led lights and the additional receptacles will have ground fault protection provided by the single gfci?

 

[retirede]

View attachment 2561627This is what I plan on using to bring my feed into and out of.
Are we talking about the same scenario?
Can I use one 20 amp circuit to supply both the gfci and the switch?
The switch will then control the led lights and the additional receptacles will have ground fault protection provided by the single gfci?

Lights cannot be powered from a SABC.

 

[brantmacga]

Lights cannot be powered from a SABC.

I believe they can.

(4) Countertop and Similar Work Surface Receptacle Outlets.
Receptacles installed for countertop and similar work surfaces as specified in 210.52(C) shall not be considered as the receptacle outlets required by 210.52(A).

(B) SmallAppliances.
(1) Receptacle Outlets Served. In the kitchen, pantry, break- fast room, dining room, or similar area of a dwelling unit, the two or more 20-ampere small-appliance branch circuits required by 210.ll(C)(l) shall serve all wall and floor receptacle outlets covered by 210.52(A), all countertop outlets covered by 210.52(C), and receptacle outlets for refrigeration equipment.

Exception No. 1: In addition to the required receptacles specified by 210.52, switched receptades supplied from a general-purpose 15- or 2,()., ampm branch circuit as required in 210. 70(A)(l), Exception No. 1, shall be permitted.

Exception No. 2: In addition to the required receptacles specified l,y 210.52, a receptacle outlet to serve a specific appliance shall be permit- ted to be suppliedfrom an individual branch circuit rated 15 amperes or greatet:
(2) No Other Outlets. The two or more small-appliance branch circuits specified in 210.52(B) (1) shall have no other outlets.

Exception No. 1: A receptacle installed solely for the electrical supply to and support of an electric dock in any of the rooms specified in 210.52(B)(l).

Exception No. 2: Receptacles installed to provide power for supplemen- tal equipment and lighting on gas-fired ranges, ovens, or counter- mounted cooking units.

The code mentions receptacles and outlets separately, and on countertops it says outlets. The wiring for the lighting fixture is an outlet on a countertop.

Also, Legrand offers a listed adapter that will plug into a countertop receptacle that feeds this whole unit including lighting on existing installations.


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[tortuga]

How does the cost of the Adorne compare with other systems?
One of our guys priced it out for a job one time and was blown away.

 

[AC\DC]

Can you bold were you see that. I don't read it that way

 

[brantmacga]

Can you bold were you see that. I don't read it that way

I think I missed receptacle in front of outlet reading on my phone is one spot. I read it 10 times and didn’t see it until now. Do you’re probably right. That said, on an existing install, I have zero problem putting a 2W LED on the SABC.


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[tortuga]

I believe they can.

The code mentions receptacles and outlets separately, and on countertops it says outlets. The wiring for the lighting fixture is an outlet on a countertop.

Here it is in bold:

(B) SmallAppliances.
(1) Receptacle Outlets Served. In the kitchen, pantry, break- fast room, dining room, or similar area of a dwelling unit, the two or more 20-ampere small-appliance branch circuits required by 210.ll(C)(l) shall serve all wall and floor receptacle outlets covered by 210.52(A), all countertop outlets covered by 210.52(C), and receptacle outlets for refrigeration equipment.

That is some interesting wording, however 210.52(C) only mentions receptacle outlets.
I agree its not a big deal to power a LED light off the SABC in my old house the light over the sink is tied into it.
I have recently had some questions as to if the plugs for the LED lights are receptacles , but concluded they are part of a listed appliance.

 

[retirede]

I think I missed receptacle in front of outlet reading on my phone is one spot. I read it 10 times and didn’t see it until now. Do you’re probably right. That said, on an existing install, I have zero problem putting a 2W LED on the SABC.


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I agree, from a practical and safety standpoint, it’s fine.