Leviton Panelboard

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I couldn't tell from the photos but I'm guessing it does have a plug-on neutral. Looks interesting and well made.
 
goldstar said:
I couldn't tell from the photos but I'm guessing it does have a plug-on neutral. Looks interesting and well made.
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Need to watch the video they have. There is no terminals on the breaker - you land both "hot" and "neutral" load wires on a lug near the foot of the breaker. Breaker has similar plug on jaws to connect to those as it has to connect to main bus.

Looks like you are limited to 60 amp circuit max.
 
I watched the video. the afci and gfci breakers have a feature so that when they reach 'end of life', they lock out and have to be replaced. I wonder how long end of life is: 10 years, 15, 20 trips? I dunno that I'd like that both hots and neutral wires terminate on blocks instead of the breakers; seems like twice as many connections to fail, and more likely a HO could swap a tripping breaker out with a higher amperage one much easier since no wiring has to be undone or moved. also seems like it might limit where higher amperage breakers could go unless those blocks can accept #1-#14 wire

Those concerns aside, they do look pretty sleek and no doubt will be appearing in installations soon. cost would have to be inline with other panels or they wont sell.

kwired said:
Need to watch the video they have. There is no terminals on the breaker - you land both "hot" and "neutral" load wires on a lug near the foot of the breaker. Breaker has similar plug on jaws to connect to those as it has to connect to main bus.

Looks like you are limited to 60 amp circuit max.
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Heh, you beat me to it by a minute.
 
JFletcher said:
I watched the video. the afci and gfci breakers have a feature so that when they reach 'end of life', they lock out and have to be replaced. I wonder how long end of life is: 10 years, 15, 20 trips? I dunno that I'd like that both hots and neutral wires terminate on blocks instead of the breakers; seems like twice as many connections to fail, and more likely a HO could swap a tripping breaker out with a higher amperage one much easier since no wiring has to be undone or moved. also seems like it might limit where higher amperage breakers could go unless those blocks can accept #1-#14 wire

Those concerns aside, they do look pretty sleek and no doubt will be appearing in installations soon. cost would have to be inline with other panels or they wont sell.



Heh, you beat me to it by a minute.
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For a dwelling unit one seldom needs more then a 60 amp breaker for branch circuits. If you have over 60 amp feeders you aren't going to use it as the main distribution panel.

I'm guessing they are suitable for use as service equipment though.

Don't know what it will cost. Conventional panels full of AFCI's aren't exactly cheap either though.

If this thing doesn't fly, I hate to be stuck owning one when replacement components aren't available, or are 4-6 times higher then what is on the market.
 
True, tho i was thinking of large on-demand water heaters, car chargers, feeder to a subpanel. Even if you needed larger than 60A, the top few breakers could have larger lugs on the panel-mounted termination tabs.
 
Looks interesting. The termination of the load conductors to a terminal is a novel idea. The idea of a whole new load center design reminds me of Square D's attempt at this back in the early 90's. What was it called, Elan? Did not fly very well.
 
I like the idea of a separate terminal block, I can terminate the conductors much easier than on a typical AFCI CB. You have a much better view of the terminals.
I noticed the 60amp circuit max as well. I believe that they are referring to the AFCI/GFCI cb's.
I noticed circuit breakers from single pole 15 amp to two pole 125 amp circuit breakers.

My concern (not a big one) is the longevity of the line. Will we be replacing the entire panel in a few years because Leviton stopped production off it due to lack of sales.
 
As aonther poster mentioned this reminds me at SquareD's attempt at their high end Trillaint load center. It was priced higher than QO. Verify few of my clients are even wiling to pay for QO let alone an even higher priced product.

If Leviton wants to be price competitive with HOM, BR, QP, THQL there will be very little profit on this equipment. I could see the product line killed off in a few years.
 
"reminds me of Square D's attempt at this back in the early 90's. What was it called, Elan? Did not fly very well".

Me too.I remember that one beige plastic box, protected bus bar, slots to slide the NM cable from the front of the panel without the use of traditional connectors, a lot of cool features, it just didn't sell.
Square D had a big promo dinner trying to push that and the smart house in the height of the recession in the late eighties early nineties. I still don't know of anyone who purchased and installed one in my area.
 
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