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If you don't have to un-wire anything to replace them then this is even easier for HO's to replace them.

And that 15 or 20 amp that needs replaced might just get replaced with a 30 - with the thinking that it will not trip as often:blink:
 
JFletcher said:
Sorry for asking about IEC specs, didn't mean to derail this thread...

Can we continue ragging on Leviton's panel? :lol:

seriously, I cant see those end of life breakers being replaced at near $200 a pop (service call plus parts).

If these panels start getting installed en masse, there is another question to ask the HO before you get there: "what color are the breakers?" "white" "^&%$#!!!"
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Certain truths are better tolerated then others by the powers that be... I am only a mortal peasant... Poking a zealous juggernaut...


I said it before: Standard circuit breaker technology is a dead market. It costs pennies to make a thermal mag that lasts 60 years. But if you have a $20+ breaker that needs replacing every X years, suddenly a manufacture can make several times over what the load center cost. Computer makers, appliance manufactures, student text books, ect ect figured out the beauty of premeditated obsolescence decades ago. It was only a matter of time before the electrical industry caught on to this.
 
cpinetree said:
Think that was, Trillian
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Almost- trilliant- but you are correct.


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jumper said:
I actually saw one live and in person once!

A house in MD when I was looking to buy.

My wife could not understand why I kept staring at it. I was not sure it was real.:D
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It was years ahead of its time. Its ironic though, in the UK and most other parts of the world plastic was the norm until recently. Now everything is being mandated to be metal.
 
mbrooke said:
It was years ahead of its time. Its ironic though, in the UK and most other parts of the world plastic was the norm until recently. Now everything is being mandated to be metal.
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It was plastic.

Took pics and thought I had scored something unique and create a thread here. This was about 8 years or so ago.

Did a quick search first and saw it was old hat to many members. :(

I was bummed.....noobie thought he was gonna be cool and impress people.:D
 
jumper said:
It was plastic.

Took pics and thought I had scored something unique and create a thread here. This was about 8 years or so ago.

Did a quick search first and saw it was old hat to many members. :(

I was bummed.....noobie thought he was gonna be cool and impress people.:D
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Well, you are going to impress people as old guys forget about Trilliant and new guys see it for the first time. If not then, now. If not now, soon. :thumbsup:
 
mbrooke said:
Almost- trilliant- but you are correct.


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Looks like a fairly ordinary loadcenter other then the plastic cabinet.

If we must have AFCI's I am much more impressed with the plug on neutral concept. I think they need to make them in 20 inch wide cabinets though since the AFCI breakers are so darn wide. (Square D QO and Homeline anyway).
 
kwired said:
Looks like a fairly ordinary loadcenter other then the plastic cabinet.

If we must have AFCI's I am much more impressed with the plug on neutral concept. I think they need to make them in 20 inch wide cabinets though since the AFCI breakers are so darn wide. (Square D QO and Homeline anyway).
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I agree, but 20 inch wides might no fit in a standard stud opening.
 
mbrooke said:
I agree, but 20 inch wides might no fit in a standard stud opening.
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They recess them in non residential applications anyway.

Many of my dwellings panel is in basement and nearly all loads come out the top - no reason to come out of bottom as nothing is below the panel except for any low outlets in the basemen. You often run out of top on 14.5 inch wide cabinets if you utilizing more then ~30 poles and is all NM cables.
 
kwired said:
Looks like a fairly ordinary loadcenter other then the plastic cabinet.

If we must have AFCI's I am much more impressed with the plug on neutral concept. I think they need to make them in 20 inch wide cabinets though since the AFCI breakers are so darn wide. (Square D QO and Homeline anyway).
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mbrooke said:
I agree, but 20 inch wides might no fit in a standard stud opening.
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Doesn't matter- if 2x6 construction, sticks'll be on 24. If 2x4 on std 16's and framers didn't leave a spot/panel needs to be moved..... notch out, then toe nail in a couple of studs as needed- iows, build your own opening- ntboad.

Coppersmith said:
I just made some good money rewiring an entire house that had an electrical fire. Let them put 30's in.;)
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I'm betting the no. of fires that could happen from overloads in a new house would be kinda low. Modern nm has 90c insulation- #12 could prolly run indefinitely on 30, as could 14 on 20- theres a considerable cushion built into the NEC tables. Ofc there are other factors that enter into it- actual load (likely not that much in a new place) length of run/bundling/amt of insulation around cable.....

Fact is if ho's overload a ckt by overfusing.....they already very easily do this now with standard panels/brkrs- they either figure out how to install a breaker by watching idiottube or by hiring the trunkslammer. Saying this design is bad b/c the easy swap out may make it easier for them to overfuse it is, imo, not a very good argument against it.

----Just my 2 cents----:)



mbrooke said:
Almost- trilliant- but you are correct.
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jumper said:
I actually saw one live and in person once!

A house in MD when I was looking to buy.

My wife could not understand why I kept staring at it. I was not sure it was real.:D
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As I said earlier, a niche product.:)
 
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I don't really understand how an non terminal circuit breaker vs a circuit breaker with terminals will make a difference in if
"some bone head" willingly or unwillingly installs the wrong sized circuit breaker.:blink:
 
user 100 said:
Doesn't matter- if 2x6 construction, sticks'll be on 24. If 2x4 on std 16's and framers didn't leave a spot/panel needs to be moved..... notch out, then toe nail in a couple of studs as needed- iows, build your own opening- ntboad.
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Point well made :)
 
Knuckle Dragger said:
I don't really understand how an non terminal circuit breaker vs a circuit breaker with terminals will make a difference in if
"some bone head" willingly or unwillingly installs the wrong sized circuit breaker.:blink:
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It probably don't make much difference, but is easier to change out.
 
Looks like a Navy spec panel

Looks like a Navy spec panel

Looks like a navy spec Eaton AQB or ALB panel. AQB are all three phase breakers that screw down with 12/24 screws. Both single and three phase use the same breaker. ALB panel boars use single phase breakers with "yokes" as they're called. Just a stamped steel handle tie for two pole or three pole breakers. Most everything navy spec is 120v delta. For lighting and receps. Very little 208y/120 single poles. Usually specific equipment like laundry, or off the shelf equipment like printers... Probably 50:1. Every lighting or outlet circuit has a black and white that lands under a screw on the backboard and a plug on breaker with a handle tie that looks strangely similar to the video. Wye boards are hit or miss a lot use single poles, with a few handle ties for 208 single phase equipment. With the neutral/ground on a common bus and no sub panels. Way easier to drop another bank of 450d/208y bank of xfrmrs than confuse splitting the egc and neutral downstream and feed an additional wire:jawdrop:.
 
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