Matching knock-outs with your conduits

anybody have any tips of the best way to make sure all your knock-out line up with your conduits when you have a lot of conduits like seen in the picture below ?View attachment 2575504
That is some nice pipework. To get all the bends, kicks, side by sides, and stacks, spaced with struts, is like wow. Art!
But I don't thick the connectors are on the box before the pipe or you wouldn't get the bonding screws tightened.
 
Let say I have row of 10-1" EMT's like in the OP and the space between each is 1". If I lay out the KO's on the box with a 1" space between each KO the EMT spacing will be off because the 1" EMT has a diameter of ~1 1/8" but the KO is actually 1 3/8". So the actual space between the KO's is only 3/4". With 10 EMT's in a row by the time you get to the end you'll be off by quite a bit. In this case the layout of the KO's is easier when just using the centers of the hole and the aforementioned cross hairs.
So if I'm using one 1" EMT and my spacing is 1" and I use the center of my knockout its should all line up right ? even tho the punch is 1-3/8" ?
 
We would use the cross hairs, but use a hole saw that matched the exact size of the KO punch pull bolt. Nothing to line up when using the KO as the hole was a tight fit for the pull bolt. This method works better if you have the slug splitter KO as it makes getting the slug off the pull bolt easier.
The down side to this is that the slug gets warped as the cutter pulls through and pinches the draw stud. Then you spend 5 minutes fighting the stupid thing between holes. It gets worse as the cutter gets dull.
 
I also will add that, while it is indeed satisfying to see work like this, I thank God that someone else did it. When I was young, I wanted this work and would beam with pride when I did it. Now, here in the waning years, I cringe at the thought of such tedium.
 
We would use the cross hairs, but use a hole saw that matched the exact size of the KO punch pull bolt. Nothing to line up when using the KO as the hole was a tight fit for the pull bolt. This method works better if you have the slug splitter KO as it makes getting the slug off the pull bolt easier.
That is still laying it out based on centers of the holes and not distance between raceways though.
 
The down side to this is that the slug gets warped as the cutter pulls through and pinches the draw stud. Then you spend 5 minutes fighting the stupid thing between holes. It gets worse as the cutter gets dull.
That is why I said we use the slug splitter KO punch. It splits the slug in two pieces so there is no issue getting it off the pull bolt.
 
That is still laying it out based on centers of the holes and not distance between raceways though.
No matter how you make the holes, you have to have a layout that gives you the center of the hole. My method does away with trying to line up the four marks on the die with cross hairs you have drawn on the layout tape.
 
What do u use for the initial hole that is a perfect fit for the draw stud?
A hole saw that is the same size as the draw stud. We normally used Blair brand hole saws and had the sizes for 1/2"(7/8'), 3/4"(1 1/8") and 1"(1 3/8") and an additional one that was 3/4" actual for the draw stud. We would use the hole saws for 1" and smaller and the KO set for larger.
 
No matter how you make the holes, you have to have a layout that gives you the center of the hole. My method does away with trying to line up the four marks on the die with cross hairs you have drawn on the layout tape.
I agree center of hole is usually most important thing and maybe misunderstood what you were describing? I thought I read distance between conduits which needs additional additions/subtractions especially with EMT to get a precise location for the KO.

I also drill out 1/2 through 1 inch with a carbide hole cutter bit and punch out anything larger in most cases.

Scribe lines also tell you where to place a keyway cutter for pushbutton/selector switches so your legend plates will all be straight.
 
I agree center of hole is usually most important thing and maybe misunderstood what you were describing? I thought I read distance between conduits which needs additional additions/subtractions especially with EMT to get a precise location for the KO.

I also drill out 1/2 through 1 inch with a carbide hole cutter bit and punch out anything larger in most cases.

Scribe lines also tell you where to place a keyway cutter for pushbutton/selector switches so your legend plates will all be straight.
We would just lay out the center without lines long enough to align the marks on a KO die. Small cross hairs and a center punch. Using the hole saw that matches the pull bolt size saved time. No matter what you need to make a hole for the pull bolt. In the past we would use the hole saw for 1/2" conduit, but that meant you needed to align the marks on the die with the cross hairs. With the smaller starting hole there is no alignment. Of course either way your initial layout has to be correct.

Yes, a scribe line is still needed for keyway type holes.
 
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