Rewire said:you let the lights go out and they will call an electrician.
BryanMD said:PERFECT example of the *need* I referred to earlier.
Your advertising didn't make that circuit fail.
Your advertising *might* get him to call you to fix it though.
(As opposed to the other 200? EC's in the YP when he looks for a name)
satcom said:Just make sure your one of those 200 in the yellow pages,
BryanMD said:Did everyone learn something?
BryanMD said:Which brings us full circle (again).
Did everyone learn something?
Sounds like you got them figured out. How dare someone try to franchise our trade, and then beat little 'ole ladies out of their social security money!!!fpilsparky1 said:uh, ya, sounds like "Mr. Electric". i worked for this guy. I drove that damm Mr. Electric truck around for like two long years. Damit...I flippen hated to go to the supply house in that damm thing.....FEDC
It kinda worked..... Mrs. Smith wanted her whatever fixed. So like 125 to show up and like an extra 85 to fix if it was ez. If not ez then I had this book with prices and stuff......I would make stuff up to meet my hourly goal......say whata about them goals
my boss was not so happy he had to pay a bunch of money to the main office of "Mr. Electric" and then there was the whole(or hole) of advertizing..... I mean Mr Electric is not Coke or Sears so what DO your advertizing dollars =?
hmmmmmmm.......does plumbing really pay better....better than and other services....cuz like a service is like cleaning ladies, electrical volks, Doctors, and cooks, what about those people that pick up dog poop, thats a service....
fpilsparky1 said:uh, ya, sounds like "Mr. Electric". i worked for this guy. I drove that Damn Mr. Electric truck around for like two long years. Damit.....I flippen hated to go to the supply house in that damn thing.....FEDC
It kinda worked..... Mrs. Smith wanted her whatever fixed. So like 125 to show up and like an extra 85 to fix if it was ez. If not ez then I had this book with prices and stuff......I would make stuff up to meet my hourly goal......say whata about them goals
I agree with that assessment very much. I've said before that a good service electrician is a pretty rare cat. Not only does he have to be technically on top of his game, but he has to be visually presentable, well spoken, a nice guy, and a half-decent salesman. He needs to have a cool temper and an even disposition, as well as well-mannered and a clean worker in a person's home or business. All of these traits may not exist in every service electrician, but that is certainly the goal. Technical compentance is no the beginning and end of a service man. There are lots of guys that could get the job done, but that customer may never use your company again because of the fella's other less desirable traits.growler said:No offense fpilsparky, you may be a great construction contractor but doing service work takes a whole different attitude. It helps if people actually like the work and good communication skills are as important as electrical knowledge, not to mention motivation.
I think the $1200 figure was just thrown out as an example, may not be what is actually charged. I sure hate to be handed a $1200 bill for a toilet replacement. Not sure who put that figure out first, but am right that it was just given as a for instance? e/mceb said:I agree that IF the elect. has kept good records you could get by with flat rate pricing. However,have we not all looked at a job and in our mind from experience said it should take me x# hours only to run into something we could not see and it winding up taking xx# of hours? Now if you have flat priced the job you loose.Then on the other hand every thing falls into place you win. I think you would loose more often than win.But with the plumbers $1200.00+ to replace a toilet, pipe is already there, two bolts ( worst case need to cut with saw ) one water line, replace wax seal, two new closet bolts, reconnect water line not a lot of hidden obstacles. I would only want to replace two toilets a week for that.:grin: No I'm greedy four:grin:
Energy-Miser said:I think the $1200 figure was just thrown out as an example, may not be what is actually charged.
As electricians we hate to hand our customers a $1200 bill for jobs like this.Energy-Miser said:I think the $1200 figure was just thrown out as an example, may not be what is actually charged. I sure hate to be handed a $1200 bill for a toilet replacement. Not sure who put that figure out first, but am right that it was just given as a for instance? e/m
aline said:As electricians we hate to hand our customers a $1200 bill for jobs like this.
That's why we come here and complain about how little electricians make compared to plumbers.
If we handed more of our customers $1200 bills for jobs like this we wouldn't be having this discussion.
How can we judge what the plumbers charge? Is a toilet worth $1200? I know when you really need one it is priceless!!! Also I know that you usually need to turn on the lights when you use one!aline said:As electricians we hate to hand our customers a $1200 bill for jobs like this.
That's why we come here and complain about how little electricians make compared to plumbers.
If we handed more of our customers $1200 bills for jobs like this we wouldn't be having this discussion.
Hey if they can get it more power to them. Wasn't too long ago that there was a big fuss at a contractor with NASA for $700 toilet seat ! But that was just the seat. Hate to see what they charge for the whole toilet. Back to the issue, I think cusomers under-value electrical work, because they think that they can do it themselves, when push comes to shove. They don't think that they can do plumbing on their own. Personally I don't see why one should be any easier to DIY than the other, but I think that that is the perception FWIW. e/m.iwire said:No, that is the minimum the company my nephew works for charges for a simple replacement with a low level brand water closet.
Really.
Keep in mind, they aim to people with money, they also know how to play the game, they put down rugs in the work area, they wear 'booties' on their feet and strive to leave the area cleaner then when they started.
Energy-Miser said:Wasn't too long ago that there was a big fuss at a contractor with NASA for $700 toilet seat ! But that was just the seat. Hate to see what they charge for the whole toilet.
Back to the issue, I think customers under-value electrical work, because they think that they can do it themselves, when push comes to shove. They don't think that they can do plumbing on their own. Personally I don't see why one should be any easier to DIY than the other, but I think that that is the perception FWIW. e/m.