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dnem said:
Is he "shooting from the hip" ? , the "not in my town" personality or does he actually have authority under law to modify the NEC ?
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He does not allow more than 2 foot of exposed romex in the basement of a house so I have always done it that way I guess.
 
fireryan said:
He does not allow more than 2 foot of exposed romex in the basement of a house so I have always done it that way I guess.
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how can he make up those rules. an inspectors job is to enforce the NEC not make up rules just because he wants too. unless its a state requirement i would fight that rule. when we wire a house we cant run romex across the beams in the cellar unless they are on strapping. i run my conductors on the sill plate or the large main beam in the middle if that is made of wood and run them nice and neat between the joists.
 
See he also doensnt allow romex in a commercial building and I am not seeing this in the code either. Im also not seeing where we cant run romex in garages either
 
fireryan said:
See he also doensnt allow romex in a commercial building and I am not seeing this in the code either. Im also not seeing where we cant run romex in garages either
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you cant run romex in a detached garage unless you sheetrock it
 
electricalperson said:
you cant run romex in a detached garage unless you sheetrock it
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Yeah as I read on I see this because of the fire rating but that annex in the back is pretty confusing when describing building types
 
fireryan said:
Northern Iowa
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I thought you were going to say San Francisco or some other wacky place. ;)

It sounds like you have a seriously misinformed inspector where you are, or some really dumb local codes.
 
This thread has really got me thinking. After looking ino the annex on building types which just gives me a head ache. It is permissible to run romex in a cattle shed or old barn. Am I reading this right
 
fireryan said:
This thread has really got me thinking. After looking ino the annex on building types which just gives me a head ache. It is permissible to run romex in a cattle shed or old barn. Am I reading this right
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Don't let yourself get caught up in all of the details of Annex E. . According to 334.10 + 12, the breaking point for Romex is Types 1 + 2 on one side and Types 3, 4, + 5 on the other side.

Notice the wording:

"Type 1 is a Fire-Resistive construction type. . All structural elements and most interior elements are required to be noncombustible." . Example, steel or masonry structure and interior.

"Type 3 construction has two categories: . One-Hour Rated and Non-Rated. . Both categories require the structural framework and exterior walls to be of noncombustible material." . So type 3 interior elements can be wood. . Type 4 is heavy timber. . Type 5 doesn't restrict by combustibility of material, so you can have an all wood structure. . So 3, 4, + 5 can be wood interior.

So Romex shouldn't be in a metal stud building unless it's 1 or 2 family dwelling [334.10(1)]. . Romex shouldn't be in wood stud areas listed in 334.12 (4) thru (8), except assembly buildings with areas/rooms that are nonrated construction [518.4(B)]. . Rooms with occupancy loads of over 50 are rated construction.

That's the general stuff you should be looking for. . If you get something that looks that it might go against those guidelines, then you have to do more research into the construction types and categories to see if it really is a problem.
 
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