NEC 2023 Article 210.8- GFCI Protection for Appliances

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Do Commercial washer machine in a commercial laundromat require GFCI protection per NEC 2023? NEC 2023 Article 210.8 list dryer but not washer. Does any one know why that is?
 
Yes, unless hardwired
see 210.8(B)(11) for receptacles

The clothes dryer was added to 210.8(D), the expanding list of appliance outlets, which includes hardwired
 
infinity said:
Isn't GFCI protection required for laundry areas? I think that would cover a laundromat.
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Yes, I agree . But the fact that they added dryers to the list of appliances that requires
GFCI and not washers just makes me wonder if there is reason why. 3 phase or single phase Commercial washers have a variable speed drive and GFCI may not work.
 
The purpose of a class A GFCI is to protect personel from Shock hazards per NEC 210.8 Can we agree on that? Shock hazards exist wether appliances are hard wired or cord-and plug connected. Provide GFCI protection for appliances branch circuit or outlet, either way per 210.8
 
DGomes said:
Yes, I agree . But the fact that they added dryers to the list of appliances that requires
GFCI and not washers just makes me wonder if there is reason why. 3 phase or single phase Commercial washers have a variable speed drive and GFCI may not work.
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If the washer is connected to a receptacle it is required that the receptacle have GFCI protection. Makes no sense why hardwired washers wouldn't have the same requirement.
 
Yes , if a washer is connected to a receptacle it is required to have GFCI protection. I agree . But what difference does it make ? Shock hazards exist wether an appliance is hard wired or cord - and plug connected.
NEC 2023 . 422.5 (A) (3) list cord-and-plug connected high -pressure spray washing machines, vending machines ,dryers etc..If I hard wired all the above I still need to provide GFCI protection.
 
DGomes said:
Yes , if a washer is connected to a receptacle it is required to have GFCI protection. I agree . But what difference does it make ? Shock hazards exist wether an appliance is hard wired or cord - and plug connected.
NEC 2023 . 422.5 (A) (3) list cord-and-plug connected high -pressure spray washing machines, vending machines ,dryers etc..If I hard wired all the above I still need to provide GFCI protection.
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A dishwasher needs gfci protection even if it is direct wired

D) Specific Appliances.



GFCI protection shall be provided for the branch circuit or outlet supplying the following appliances rated 150 volts or less to ground and 60 amperes or less, single- or 3-phase:
  • (1)
    Automotive vacuum machines
  • (2)
    Drinking water coolers and bottle fill stations
  • (3)
    High-pressure spray washing machines
  • (4)
    Tire inflation machines
  • (5)
    Vending machines
  • (6)
    Sump pumps
  • (7)
    Dishwashers
  • (8)
    Electric ranges
  • (9)
    Wall-mounted ovens
  • (10)
    Counter-mounted cooking units
  • (11)
    Clothes dryers
  • (12)
    Microwave ovens
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ramsy said:
Yes, unless hardwired
see 210.8(B)(11) for receptacles

The clothes dryer was added to 210.8(D), the expanding list of appliance outlets, which includes hardwired
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210.8(a)(11) addresses the gfci protection of receptacles in dwelling unit laundry areas
210.8(b)(14) addresses gfci protection of receptacles in other Than dwelling unit laundry areas , which is what’s applicable here
 
ramsy said:
We are both correct.
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How so when you incorrectly quoted the code number . 210.8(b)(11) is in reference to gfci protection of receptacles in other than dwelling unit crawl spaces at or below grade level . That has absolutely nothing to do with gfci protection of receptacles in laundry areas in other than a dwelling unit . You are in no way correct
 
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