need help with Landscape lighting with radioRA switch

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Dennis Alwon said:
Yes, but if they want to dim the outdoor lights they can with the power booster and a RA switch.
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I was just trying to note a possible reason for bstan's problem. :rolleyes:
 
bstan1976 said:
It is the non dimming switch. Never heard of the power booster. Interesting that Lutron tech support never mentioned it. Just for my own knowledge, what is making the switch and the relay heat up so much? The load on the switch is about 5 amps and it is rated for 8, and the load on the relay is about 8.5 amps and it is rated fo 30. What am i missing? Is there a defect somewhere or is my installation wrong?
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Your loads don't sound right.

If the "switch" is controlling only the relay, that load should be way lower than 5 amps.

And if the relay is carrying the lighting load, what happened to the 14 amps? Did you combo connect the load... part on the "switch" with the relay coil, and part only on the relay contacts?

If the lighting load (connected direct) is 14.11, then your combined amp draw should be over that.

PS: would like to see a schematic connection diagram, if possible.
 
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Dennis Alwon said:
Sorry I thought you did that in your earlier post when you mentioned the dimming sw with a relay. :smile:
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Yes, I did... but that was with dimming switch. The additional posting was regarding the non-dimming switch. :wink:
 
Smart $ said:
Your loads don't sound right.

If the "switch" is controlling only the relay, that load should be way lower than 5 amps.

And if the relay is carrying the lighting load, what happened to the 14 amps? Did you combo connect the load... part on the "switch" with the relay coil, and part only on the relay contacts?

If the lighting load (connected direct) is 14.11, then your combined amp draw should be over that.

PS: would like to see a schematic connection diagram, if possible.
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I have a detailed schematic diagram but dont know how to put it on here. The total load for both transformers is 14.11 amps. I originally had it all on one switch and one relay. When that didnt work i ran a seperate circuit for each transformer and put them on their own switch. One transformer is a Unique 840SS 840 Watt 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 18 and 20 Volt and the other is an 1120SS 1120 Watt 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 18, 20 and 22. The loads are 5.7 and 8.4 amps. That is the primary load for each transformer. The radiora switch is a model RA8-ANS. It is not a dimmer. It is only a smart switch hooked up to the cronos system. I would gladly post the diagram or email it if someone could help me. THis is my first experience with these RAdioRa switches
 
bstan1976 said:
I have a detailed schematic diagram but dont know how to put it on here...
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What paperclip icon??

Click on the red "Post Reply"

Scroll down below the reply box to "Additional Options"

There you will see "Attach Files", click on "Manage Attachments".

Click on "Browse" and navagate to the file on your computer.

-Hal
 
hbiss said:
What paperclip icon??
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The one above where you type your post. To the left is a white emoticon button for generic smilies. To the right are Undo and Redo buttons. Initiates the same popup as Manage Attachments.

hbiss said:
Click on the red "Post Reply"
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...which takes you to another page which has the Advanced Post/Reply form (this is the same as clicking on the Quote button but without the quote :)
 
hbiss said:
Maybe I'm crazy but I don't have any of that.

-Hal
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Yeah, you are probably crazy. Go to "My Profile" on the Mike Holt Menu Bar (Top Left). Choose edit option and go to the very bottom where it says Miscellaneous. Make sure enhanced interface- full WYSIWYG Editing is selected then save changes. See if that helps
 
Here are the diagrams Bruce sent me.



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hbiss said:
Thanks Dennis. I was crazy.

Anyway I'm not seeing anything wrong with those diagrams.

-Hal
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In diagram on page 1 of 3, the only load on the ra switch is the contactor coil. It is likely less than 5W, the minimum load according to the switch specs. Perhaps add an incandescent pilot light to the ra switch load to take it over 5W...???
 
Smart $ said:
In diagram on page 1 of 3, the only load on the ra switch is the contactor coil. It is likely less than 5W, the minimum load according to the switch specs. Perhaps add an incandescent pilot light to the ra switch load to take it over 5W...???
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I don't see how that would trip a 20 amp breaker.

Something is happening here but you don't know what it is. Do you Mr. Jones? (Bob Dylan)
 
I spoke with another electrician who did the exact same set up with the relay and it works fine. I just don't know what would heat the switch and relay up so much as to trip a brand new 20 amp breaker. Can someone answer that?
 
bstan1976 said:
I spoke with another electrician who did the exact same set up with the relay and it works fine. I just don't know what would heat the switch and relay up so much as to trip a brand new 20 amp breaker. Can someone answer that?
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Bruce what was the result when you put an ordinary switch in place of the Ra switch with the relay still in place?
 
the landscape lighting company is coming today to put in a larger transformer so i will not be back at that job untill tommorow. Will try the regular switch, but still have to figure out how to use the radiora.
 
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