No problem, more money more money!
Nightmare job
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No problem, more money more money!
Where I am the customer gets a building permit which allows all the different trades to start work. Then I have to file for a rough electrical inspection. There's no electrical permit to start working. This is why in my area it's very common to see an unlicensed person start a job then the customer calls in a licensed electrician to get an inspection and finish... They'll just say something like I kicked the last contractor off the job and he closed up shop and was never heard from again but really it was their cousin who's a mechanic for somebody else.
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Or guys will do a job and then just get a licensed contractor to file for an inspection for them
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It's really messed up but also the the licensing where I am is ridiculous... There's two counties and then multiple municipalities within each County. So within a 50-mile radius there's 5 licenses you would need
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gadfly56
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- New Jersey
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- Professional Engineer, Fire & Life Safety
Makes NJ seem reasonable, and that's saying a lot.
JFletcher
Senior Member
- Location
- Williamsburg, VA
Hartford County, MD? :lol:
Lovely pics... that mudring outside the wall isnt as bad as the drywall screws attaching it to...I presume a box. Also, spin the panels around? :jawdrop: I dont think I've ever seen a panel that had enough slack in the wiring to allow that... let alone if there is any conduits going to it.
Maybe I need to start installing service loops at the panel to plan for such things.... NOT!
Buck Parrish
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- NC & IN
That's got to be Indiana.
kwired
Electron manager
- Location
- NE Nebraska
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- EC
Does she think you may be wrong and that it may pass? Not that some places it might, but if you regularly work in that area one has to assume if you say it won't pass that you are most likely correct.
If that were to happen to me around here - there is not only the requirement to fix the violations, but also a reinspection fee. Costs less to do it right the first time. Now if they sneak that sink in there on me after rough in and client wants to wait for it to fail before authorizing me to change it - I may explain the situation to the inspector, he may even come out and tell owner personally he will not pass that, and there won't be any additional charges from inspection dept. But if I wait until final inspection day to let him see it - there will be a correction notice and reinspection fees.
jumper
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- 3 Hr 2 Min from Winged Horses
Harford County, and yes all of MD is screwed up for licensing, permits, inspections, and codes.
Be very happy that you are in good old VA with state wide rules.
Well, permits can vary some-mostly pricing though IIRC.
They snuck it in after rough inspection.. To be honest the inspectors around here don't look at much when I got my rough inspection the guy came in and asked me for counts then asked me if I used anti short bushings on all the mc cable and opened up one box to see and then left. He was there for 5 Minutes
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So she thinks the inspector won't even notice which is probably true
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kwired
Electron manager
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- NE Nebraska
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- EC
Some inspectors here may not have mentioned anything about the pipes if they would have been there at rough inspection, but none of them would give a go on a final if that sink were in front of the panel. That is why I said if it happened to me I wouldn't be waiting to see if it is overlooked - it won't be around here. They can even go through things kind of fast and miss some minor things at times, but they always look at panelboards. For one thing the electrical permits here are somewhat based on number of branch circuits that were installed/worked on. On new construction they will count breaker handles to verify you filed for the correct number of circuits. On existing is not always so clear as they need to determine what is new and what was existing.
If that sink were already in front of the panel before you had done any work (if you were working here) they will still do what they can to try to get things changed, but you wouldn't necessarily be as directly responsible for making sure it gets changed - especially if you didn't add any circuits to that particular panel, if you did add circuits to that panel then you will likely not get out of making changes before they finalize your permit.
If that sink were already in front of the panel before you had done any work (if you were working here) they will still do what they can to try to get things changed, but you wouldn't necessarily be as directly responsible for making sure it gets changed - especially if you didn't add any circuits to that particular panel, if you did add circuits to that panel then you will likely not get out of making changes before they finalize your permit.
Fulthrotl
~Autocorrect is My Worst Enema.~
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- E
i think that means no.....
"just spin them around....."
shouldn't cost more than $50. tops.
my calibrated meter says $3,704.
ramsy
NoFixNoPay Electric
- Location
- LA basin, CA
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- Service Electrician 2020 NEC
If your connectors were listed for MC Cable, anti-short bushings are not supposed to be needed.
So, the only thing inspector looks for was not required. Bet you keep using red devils on your MC.
MyCleveland
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- Cleveland, Ohio
Roger is asking once the washer is placed will you have 36" in front of panel...does not look good.
- Location
- Placerville, CA, USA
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- Retired PV System Designer
OP said the washer will be at far left (i.e beyond the drain pipe.) It appears to me that the distance from the panel front to the drain pipe is more than 36", but it is hard to tell for sure from a photo without making some geometric calculations and knowing some optical information about the camera and its position.
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