panel box wire routing question

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jumper said:
Gimme a break. Ya really wanna call out that offset nipple as a red tag?:blink:

Minor violation - yes, but hack?:happysad:

I done did far worse.:cool:
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While not a sarcasm smiley, that halo'd smiley in my post means I am guilty of hacking a few things... some knowingly, some not. I just put it in three stages, but there are several shades of gray in between, such as the doing what you believe is right and not knowingly being a hack.
 
If you have an offset nipple connecting the two panels why mess with NM? Just use THHW.
As other have said, no problem with feeder and branch wires in a single pipe.
 
robertd said:
If you have an offset nipple connecting the two panels why mess with NM? Just use THHW.
As other have said, no problem with feeder and branch wires in a single pipe.
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Quite possible he is one of the slew of young, raised in new construction commercial installations, that inaccurately believe wire nuts are not allowed in panels.

It's hard to believe how many think it's a violation.
 
robertd said:
If you have an offset nipple connecting the two panels why mess with NM? Just use THHW.
As other have said, no problem with feeder and branch wires in a single pipe.
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Because guys that do residential only don't typically have THHN/THWN on hand. Probably has many scrap pieces of 6-3 NM though.
 
gadfly56 said:
How do you not plan out something like this? I can't imagine circuiting on-the-fly is an efficient use of installation time.
Sounds like someone needs to review the six P's, unless there were a boat load of scope adds.
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I have had jobs where I go from the utilities "combination" meter/breaker box (that they install at the road).
This is an underground set-up. I then run my conduit underground & stub it up (before the slab is poured) inside the garage. Install my panel at that location. Last house, the owner wanted to pre-wire for future hot tub, & future shed out back. He also was going to have a counter top microwave somewhere in the kitchen (so I made the small appliance circuits with just 2 or 3 openings on them.
All of this had changed from when panel was originally installed, but luckily the 40 circuit panel had enough spaces, with 1 left.
Hard to anticipate what customers "might" want, without going to an extreme panel size!:jawdrop:
 
JDB3 said:
I have had jobs where I go from the utilities "combination" meter/breaker box (that they install at the road).
This is an underground set-up. I then run my conduit underground & stub it up (before the slab is poured) inside the garage. Install my panel at that location. Last house, the owner wanted to pre-wire for future hot tub, & future shed out back. He also was going to have a counter top microwave somewhere in the kitchen (so I made the small appliance circuits with just 2 or 3 openings on them.
All of this had changed from when panel was originally installed, but luckily the 40 circuit panel had enough spaces, with 1 left.
Hard to anticipate what customers "might" want, without going to an extreme panel size!:jawdrop:
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Well, that would come under where I wrote "boat load of scope adds". Perfectly understandable in that case.
 
Smart $ said:
Are you certain about that? The offset nipple appears to be outside. THHN, not dual rated, would be a violation. THHW would be okay, as would dual rated THHN/THWN(-2).
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In my original post I was thinking of THHN/THWN(-2), but THHW would also work.
 
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