Plastic VS. Metal; Fair labor assessment

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I don't know what those are, but even saying the names takes to long.
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They're just part #'s. Even plastic boxes have those!

Brant, the 60's called - they want their solderpot back!
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Yeh yeh. I shouldn't have even mentioned that and just asked about the plastic.
 
electricguy61 said:
Plastic boxes (deep as possible, 22.5 ci), plastic staples (no shorts), wago's, #14 wire where possible = best way to go! IMHO:D
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I agree with your list. I just haven't gotten brave enough to try the Wago's yet.
 
if you can answer off the top of your head, what's the price difference between 20 cu.in. and 22.5 cu. in.? I was quoted $0.31 for the 20 cu. in. box.
 
peter d said:
I prefer the green wirenut (aka Greenie) for grounding, and incidentally it's the only connector listed for use with grounding conductors. However, I've been know to use a regular wire nut as well. ;)
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I use the Greenies too. I used to just pigtail a ground with a twist-on until a new guy introduced me to those green time savers.
 
I believe he is referrring to the Wall-Nut by WAGO http://www.wago.us/downloads/50097682.pdf Ideal has a similar product line, however the WAGO is a far superior product IMO. The most common WAGO version is suitable for #18-#12 Solid and coarse stranded wire, and comes in 3,4,6, and 8 hole versions if IIRC. They also have versions for larger and smaller wires. The best part is you can add a tap onto a circuit(or Pigtail) without disconnecting the existing connection. One downside I have found so far= using stranded wire can be a frustrating process at times.
 
"Wago" style connector:

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Greenie:

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brantmacga said:
if you can answer off the top of your head, what's the price difference between 20 cu.in. and 22.5 cu. in.? I was quoted $0.31 for the 20 cu. in. box.
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I think it's about 10 cents higher. If you use 100 boxes on a job, $10 more for the convience of a box that's pretty hard to overfill. I gave up on the small ones when I had an inspector nail me for having one conductor too many in a box.

WAGO's are faster to connect, and save your wrists. I've used thousands of them and have yet to have a failure of the product. I have had apprentices not make sure they were installed properly (there a clear window on them and you should visualize all wires are properly seated)
 
ahh I use them but they are not wago's see just needed to be on same page..now I know what you are referring to..I was assuming them but was not for sure..I have been using the greenies as you call them for couple years now..I have not use crimps in many years..I would think since sometime in eighties..
 
Those Wall-Nuts are great, too bad my employer wont buy them. I got a box of them for free from a supplier who wanted me to try them out. I love those things! They're a heck of a lot faster and I've never had one fail. Just make sure you push in wires properly and you're good to go.

Where they really shine is troubleshooting and add-on work. They're easy to get off when you need to and if you need to add a wire there's no messing with a twisted joint, you just push in another connector.
 
Does anybody here use a stapler to tack down NM? I've stayed away from them so far because of the high staple cost. Are they worth it?
 
I want to know more about stapling. What kind of stapler? What type of staples? My thumb hurts : ) And anyone who hasn't used the crimp, clip, twist method for residential grounds shouldn't dis it until they try it. Effective, safe, fast. I do like "Wagos" for commercial grounds and large bundles of neutrals.
 
GilbeSpark said:
Does anybody here use a stapler to tack down NM? I've stayed away from them so far because of the high staple cost. Are they worth it?
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I've used one a few times. I didn't really like it because it really seems like a fast way to get carpal tunnel syndrome.
 
GilbeSpark said:
Does anybody here use a stapler to tack down NM? I've stayed away from them so far because of the high staple cost. Are they worth it?
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They're *real* handy in a tight space with no room to swing the kleins.
Else wise, just another tool and hdwr to be dragging around all day.
And of course the add'l expense of staples.
 
brantmacga said:
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is that the one w/ the hole in the end of it? i've seen that, and it looks very useful.
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Best idea since 2 pockets on a shirt. :smile: If I were to wire again, I would definitely head for the "greenies". :smile:
 
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