....but the concept is the same, if it’s a heavy load that is frequently turned on and off, .....no thanks, I’ll stick with wirenuts. JMHO
Push in wire connector in place of wirenut
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No the concept is not the same. Just like soldering and wirenuts are not the same. Lets not even get into many fuse clips, plug-on breakers, and cord plugs that also use a spring clip style connection.
I am not trying to convince you to stop using wirenuts, I just don't like the comparing all spring clip wire connections to the 'back-stabs' found in wiring devices.
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Insulation piercing connecting devices are same yet not the same as well. And there are some out there for small conductors as well as some for large conductors.
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More! Talk about a typo....
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Actually a spring pressure contact device is better suited for loads like than a screw terminal as the spring pressure device compensates for the thermal expansion and contraction that results from the cycling load.
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Wagos seem to be a good alternative for switches when the wires are (too) short or have been twisted and untwisted a lot, this way you don't have to twist the wires again, potentially damaging them... would't want wagos on something that draws a lot of current. They are supposedly designed for same current rating as the circuit conductors. And would not want the knock off wagos, heard a bunch of bad stuff about them.
The push ins on the back of devices... (kept being told to stay away as if it is the devil).
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I agree, just so happens the spring in "backstab" switches and receptacles is a poor spring is why they don't work out so well.
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Yes, I should have made it clear that I was not talking about the "backstab" wiring devices.
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I have only ever had issues with the non genuine ones. If you buy the ones from the Wago website they are fine but even the ideal brand ones I've had issues with.
I watched a clip on utube, where the guy took a #12 THHN and had a Wago and a wirenut on it, put 90 amps though the wire. Every thing melted off, but the connectors ( Wago and wirenut) held.
Just starting to use the Wago’s. The thing I like is how much smaller they are than the wirenut’s. The wire’s are easier to “roll” back in the box.
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Just starting to use the Wago’s. The thing I like is how much smaller they are than the wirenut’s. The wire’s are easier to “roll” back in the box.
“ shoot low boys their riding shetland ponies”
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Wago brand seem to have two types. Push in (PUSH WIRE® Connectors) and lever type (LEVER-NUTS® Splicing Connectors).
I just started to see the lever type discussed at a jobsite recently for use.
The push in type, although not Wago, were being proposed for the Hubble SnapConnect receptacles where the modular plug has the push in for the building wire branch circuit connection and is left for rough, and then the receptacle body get snapped onto the modular connector at finish by a helper.
We'll see if the place burns down.
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I just started to see the lever type discussed at a jobsite recently for use.
The push in type, although not Wago, were being proposed for the Hubble SnapConnect receptacles where the modular plug has the push in for the building wire branch circuit connection and is left for rough, and then the receptacle body get snapped onto the modular connector at finish by a helper.
We'll see if the place burns down.
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I soldered until 2008 (I’m in my 30’s). It’s how I was taught, it was all I knew. I got a lot of comments about it on this forum.
Anyway, now I use push in connectors.
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I wouldn't expect a slurpy house to have any Wago's.
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"Slurpy house", LOL. I wonder, is there a story behind this?
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I wondered the same. At an industrial plant I worked in, we were always talking about the "mill wrongs" and "pipe fighters".
Same as going to the Blunder Yard.
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Isn't 7-eleven stores the original "Slurpy house"?
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