Receptacle above ceiling

[Dennis Alwon]

I thought Cavie was talking about a furnace in an attic.

Yes he was. I was just trying to clarify why a furnace with a cord is a bad installation IF you could not install rubber cords in the attic. Hillbilly was asking having to cut the cord off being a violation. I just took that to the suspended ceiling to make a point. Obviously not very sucessful.

I believe the code allows you to put a rubber cord in the attic but I do not like it. Rubber cords will crack in the heat over time--- at least they use to. The new insulation may be able to handle the heat. I guess if I new for sure I would be more comfortable about it,

 

[LarryFine]

Interestingly, I have never, ever wired any furnace or air handler with any method except hard-wiring, nor have I ever seen it done.

 

[mdshunk]

Interestingly, I have never, ever wired any furnace or air handler with any method except hard-wiring, nor have I ever seen it done.

Me either, but I have learned that this is a common practice in the southwestern United States.

 

[inspector23]

Me either, but I have learned that this is a common practice in the southwestern United States.

Waaaaay too common!:smile:

 

[JohnJ0906]

Interestingly, I have never, ever wired any furnace or air handler with any method except hard-wiring, nor have I ever seen it done.

Neither have I. I do see humidifiers and electronic filters with cords though. (Almost never in attics)

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Interestingly, I have never, ever wired any furnace or air handler with any method except hard-wiring, nor have I ever seen it done.

I have not either but I have seen many an old whole house fan sitting in the attic with a rubber cord (cracked all up and down from the heat) and plugged into a receptacle.

 

[stickboy1375]

I have not either but I have seen many an old whole house fan sitting in the attic with a rubber cord (cracked all up and down from the heat) and plugged into a receptacle.

And how old do you think the cord is 20 - 30 years old? Old bx didn't quite make it either... so whats the difference? Things change, better products come along, I see more and more boilers come factory installed with a cord now a days... Buy a whole house fan today and guarantee it will have a factory cord installed...

 

[inspector23]

Buy a whole house fan today and guarantee it will have a factory cord installed...

And if I buy a Mattel toy I guarantee it will have been painted with lead paint and be one of the MILLIONS recalled from the China crap flooding this country.

Point is, just because it is "new" method does not mean it is better - or safer.

Given all the factors involved - inferior products, installed in areas not designed for any early warning system for fire or smoke, high ambient temps, in residential houses where people sleep (not just work) - why take the chance??

If it is not allowed in commercial applications because of a safety issue, why is is allowed in a residential area?

I TOLD you I have issues with this section!:smile: Now where is my happy place..........

 

[hillbilly1]

My favorite is when the HVAC contractor cuts the plug off the humidifier (usually 14 or 16 gauge) and hardwires it to the 60 amp feed for the heat strips in a furnace using the ground as a neutral! All laughing aside looks like there needs to be an issue brought up to the CMP, unless there is a valid reason to prohibit the cord and plugs above a suspended ceiling.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Buy a whole house fan today and guarantee it will have a factory cord installed...

I know I would make money on that bet.

 

[realolman]

....... unless there is a valid reason to prohibit the cord and plugs above a suspended ceiling.

What would that reason be? I can't see any.

 

[stickboy1375]

I know I would make money on that bet.

I know, but the last two I did did have cords on them....