receptacle location
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electricmanscott
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Re: receptacle location
Why would he get beat up over that. Everyone knows that is how they should be installed. If they weren't what would happen if the cord was slightly out of the receptacle and a paper clip fell accross the grounded and ungrounded prongs? Oh the humanity!
hurk27
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Re: receptacle location
I hate to tell ya that the 3' requirment imposed by some AHJ's is most likly a miss guided atempt to use the requirements of 410.4(D) which only apply to fixtures not receptacles!
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Re: receptacle location
[ May 22, 2005, 05:02 PM: Message edited by: infinity ]
Also I would add that it doesn't apply to all fixtures. It only applies to the luminaries on the list in 410.4(D), not to wall mounted luminaires that may be above a basin less than 3' from the edge of the tub or shower.
[ May 22, 2005, 05:02 PM: Message edited by: infinity ]
Re: receptacle location
I have been wiring for over thirty years mostly industrial facilities and i have always put grounds up but almoat all of the resi wiring here is ground down. I even catch grief from my wife about it.I rewired a house a couple of months ago and got a call from the home owner that said all of outlets were upside down. I had to down load some maufacturers recommendations to prove to her that this is the recommeded way. But I would be happy to turn them over if she wanted to pay me to do it. She said she could live with it.
I have been wiring for over thirty years mostly industrial facilities and i have always put grounds up but almoat all of the resi wiring here is ground down. I even catch grief from my wife about it.I rewired a house a couple of months ago and got a call from the home owner that said all of outlets were upside down. I had to down load some maufacturers recommendations to prove to her that this is the recommeded way. But I would be happy to turn them over if she wanted to pay me to do it. She said she could live with it.
physis
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Re: receptacle location
Doing residential I consider it to be part of my responsibilty to know what a customer wants me to do. What switch goes in what position, there's no reason that a person paying for something should be denied options that don't violate code and don't cost anything more to install that way. I always ask ahead of time. It might seem trivial to us but a lot of people who have work done on their homes don't think it's trivial at all.
Edit: I forgot a word.
[ May 22, 2005, 05:17 PM: Message edited by: physis ]
Doing residential I consider it to be part of my responsibilty to know what a customer wants me to do. What switch goes in what position, there's no reason that a person paying for something should be denied options that don't violate code and don't cost anything more to install that way. I always ask ahead of time. It might seem trivial to us but a lot of people who have work done on their homes don't think it's trivial at all.
Edit: I forgot a word.
[ May 22, 2005, 05:17 PM: Message edited by: physis ]
Re: receptacle location
The NEC figures in Article 550 show the ground up so that's the way I see it, they must be up!
Figure 550.10(C) 50-Ampere, 125/250-Volt Receptacle and Attachment Plug Cap Configurations, 3-Pole, 4-Wire,
Grounding-Types, Used for Mobile Home Supply Cords andbMobile Home Parks.
The NEC figures in Article 550 show the ground up so that's the way I see it, they must be up!
Figure 550.10(C) 50-Ampere, 125/250-Volt Receptacle and Attachment Plug Cap Configurations, 3-Pole, 4-Wire,
Grounding-Types, Used for Mobile Home Supply Cords andbMobile Home Parks.
hurk27
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Re: receptacle location
Rodent
That requirement is only to relive the strain on the cord as RV/Mobile home cords have the cord leaving the right angle plug on the opposite side from the grounding prong. Again it is only for mobile home cords only.
Rodent
That requirement is only to relive the strain on the cord as RV/Mobile home cords have the cord leaving the right angle plug on the opposite side from the grounding prong. Again it is only for mobile home cords only.
Re: receptacle location
Rodent, welcome to the forum. The figure in 550.10(C) is part of an FPN which is not part of the code. FPN's are only suggestive commentary.
Personally I remove the question in it's entirety and use a "Absolute Grounding Receptacle"
Roger
[ May 22, 2005, 08:19 PM: Message edited by: roger ]
Rodent, welcome to the forum. The figure in 550.10(C) is part of an FPN which is not part of the code. FPN's are only suggestive commentary.
Personally I remove the question in it's entirety and use a "Absolute Grounding Receptacle"
Roger
[ May 22, 2005, 08:19 PM: Message edited by: roger ]
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Re: receptacle location
Roger, what in the heck is that?!? Photoshop?
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[ May 22, 2005, 08:43 PM: Message edited by: georgestolz ]
Roger, what in the heck is that?!? Photoshop?
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[ May 22, 2005, 08:43 PM: Message edited by: georgestolz ]
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