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i have dedicated fridge, microwave, and dw lines.

>>> meant to say i "install" dedicated. . .
 
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I always do the 2 SABCs, plus dedicated 20s for the fridge, micro, dishwasher & disposal & dining room. Lighting is always seperate.
 
Went to a house today where they didn't believe in wasting money on extra circuits. The have 2 refrigerators ( one kitchen, one pantry ), 2 disposals ( one kitchens and one prep area ) , two dish washers ( one kitchen , one prep area ) , a microwave ( 1200 watt ) and all the counter top receptacles all on two circuits wired in #14. The circuits are connected to a double pole 30 Amp. breaker in the panel.


The homeowner suspects that the people that did the remodel may not have got a permit or inspection.

They do however have the expensive granite counter tops, one of the refrigerators is a sub zero, and the range is viking.

It's amazing what you can afford when you don't waste money on needless electrical circuits. If the house doesn't burn down they are in great shape.

This is just one of those little problems that turn up and not what I went on the service call for.
 
Cavie said:
You might want to rethink that one. Final inspection is no time to have to run a circuit to that location.

Why? Are you saying that this installation should fail an inspection?

I've already put plenty of thought, as well as actual installation experience into this. Let's look at the logic here.

Dishes get "pre-cleaned" first. Stuff gets scraped off and into the disposal. The disposal runs for a few seconds. Dishwasher gets loaded then turned on.

Where is the problem?
 
480sparky said:
I always do the 2 SABCs, plus dedicated 20s for the fridge, micro, dishwasher & disposal & dining room. Lighting is always seperate.

That's how we do it also. BTW this is a minimum for us. In the big kitchens we may have a couple more SABCs + other circuits for the warming drawers, veggy frig, wine refer, etc......
 
bkludecke said:
That's how we do it also. BTW this is a minimum for us. In the big kitchens we may have a couple more SABCs + other circuits for the warming drawers, veggy frig, wine refer, etc......

Me to!

Here's a kitchen & family room bar I did last year:

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celtic said:
Why?

What type fridges require a 20A line?

These

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Kitchen has 3 SABCs, dedicated 20s for the dishwasher, disposal (none was installed, but it's there) , fridge, freezer (matching Vikings), micro and dining room. There's alsoa 40a 240v circuit for the oven.

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Bar has two SABCs as well as a ded. 20 for the dorm fridge and vino chiller.
 
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peter d said:
Why? Are you saying that this installation should fail an inspection?

I've already put plenty of thought, as well as actual installation experience into this. Let's look at the logic here.

Dishes get "pre-cleaned" first. Stuff gets scraped off and into the disposal. The disposal runs for a few seconds. Dishwasher gets loaded then turned on.

Where is the problem?
Lots of 11 amp dishwahsers around here. Doesn't leave much for a disposol. Ad 'em up and poof!
 
celtic said:
Why?

What type fridges require a 20A line?

Big ones. Out here the large custom homes have 2-3 of 'em. Sub Zeros with a 5-20 cord cap and 20amp circuit requirement. After you add the circuits on a couple of new homes you start puttin' 'em in at rough to cover your a**.
 
bkludecke said:
Big ones. Out here the large custom homes have 2-3 of 'em. Sub Zeros with a 5-20 cord cap and 20amp circuit requirement. After you add the circuits on a couple of new homes you start puttin' 'em in at rough to cover your a**.
This batch of Sub-Zero's you speak of must be new...newer than 06-24-2007...
celtic said:
Awhile back this question came up here ~ 20A vs. 15A for the refridge (or something similar). I checked just about ALL the install pdf.s at the sub-zero site....not one required/recommended/suggested a 20A line - but rather a 15A.

So why use a 20A?
#7 from Refridgerator - seperate circuit?



I did some independant research over here in post #30 from Refrigerators in residential units
After looking at EVERY model listed at the site (www.subzero.com), I arrived at the conclusion that NO Sub-Zero REQUIRES a 20A ckt.
 
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