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480sparky said:
Me to!

Here's a kitchen & family room bar I did last year:

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Isn't it amazing how much it costs to get the "rustic look?" :grin:
 
peter d said:
Why? Are you saying that this installation should fail an inspection?

I've already put plenty of thought, as well as actual installation experience into this. Let's look at the logic here.

Dishes get "pre-cleaned" first. Stuff gets scraped off and into the disposal. The disposal runs for a few seconds. Dishwasher gets loaded then turned on.

Where is the problem?
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The circuit should be sized for connected load,think thanksgiving dinner prep with dishwasher running to clean pots and disposer on for those celery stalk tops and POP the breaker trips and you have a steamed customer.
 
celtic said:
After looking at EVERY model listed at the site (www.subzero.com), I arrived at the conclusion that NO Sub-Zero REQUIRES a 20A ckt.
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Celtic, I'm sure you are right but the people that can afford a subzero can easily afford a 20 Amp. circuit. They can also afford seperate circuits for the dishwasher and disposal. In the long run it probably saves them money because of less voltage drop. The compressor motor will probably last longer because it will operate at a cooler temperature. And last but not least they can brag about it to the neighbors ( my wire is bigger than your wire ).

This commercial paid for by the copper wire manufacturers of America.
( there really is not a copper shortage we just want to make higher profits, reality means nothing, perception is everything ).

:smile: Few people need four wheel drive but almost everyone has it. :smile:
 
growler said:
This commercial paid for by the copper wire manufacturers of America.
( there really is not a copper shortage we just want to make higher profits, reality means nothing, perception is everything ).
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LOL

Is that a "TMYK"?
The More You Know
 
peter d said:
I usually put the fridge on a dedicated 15, or on the SABC.

The dishwasher and disposal will both go on one 15.
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I'm still surprised that the myth is still around that seperate circuits are required, by the NEC, for the DW and the GD.

So maybe 15 isn't enough and you run a 20 since you're using so much #12 anyways. I agree with Peter that there is no need for it.

But, to answer the OP I would probably install a seperate circuit for the fridge, just because.
 
We always run an individual 20 Amp circuit for the refrigerator. I've never seen a fridge that needs it (even the big ones), but it's always been our habit. Comes in handy when the kitchen layout get's changed without notice, though.
 
LawnGuyLandSparky said:
300 acres in Iowa, whats that run, 200 grand? :grin:
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Beats me. I'm not a realtor. But 667 bucks an acre seems way low. Maybe 3 or 4 grand per, especially since it's pretty much all timber? Good hunting land, though! The HO put this in the basement:

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Better give that guy what he wants. :D


Anyway, I used to be one of those "20 amp for this 20 amp for that blah blah hurumph hurumph"....guys, then I actually thought about it rather than just trying to be "better" than the other guy.

20 amp for the sa cicuits, 15 for everything else. There is just no reason to run 20 amp circuits for anything other than the s/a circuits.
 
480sparky said:
Beats me. I'm not a realtor. But 667 bucks an acre seems way low. Maybe 3 or 4 grand per, especially since it's pretty much all timber? Good hunting land, though! The HO put this in the basement:

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I assume he rolls his own?
 
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Whats up with the zip cord run down the post to the right of the bar? It looks like Scotch tape holding the wire in place.
 
celtic said:
This batch of Sub-Zero's you speak of must be new...newer than 06-24-2007...
#7 from Refridgerator - seperate circuit?



I did some independant research over here in post #30 from Refrigerators in residential units
After looking at EVERY model listed at the site (www.subzero.com), I arrived at the conclusion that NO Sub-Zero REQUIRES a 20A ckt.
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Actually my info may be dated. I haven't checked what the refers require in years. So they may only need 15a these days. I'm an old fart who has a tough time staying current. That said I'll still rough-in with #12 for large appliances 'cause I never know what the HO is going to find when they go shopping. I also provide future conduits to all the crawl spaces from the panelboards and many times I use them before the job is finaled. These are pretty large customs and the money is always there.
 
480sparky said:
Beats me. I'm not a realtor. But 667 bucks an acre seems way low. Maybe 3 or 4 grand per, especially since it's pretty much all timber? Good hunting land, though! The HO put this in the basement:

I was born in Iowa-I don't seem to recall "timber" as part of my vocabulary until I moved to Wisconsin. Is there really such a thing in Iowa?
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sparky_magoo said:
Whats up with the zip cord run down the post to the right of the bar? It looks like Scotch tape holding the wire in place.
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Speaker wire. Not my thing, but the HOs. No tape, though, just a reflection of the camera flash on the shiny finish of the log post.


electriciangirl said:
I was born in Iowa-I don't seem to recall "timber" as part of my vocabulary until I moved to Wisconsin. Is there really such a thing in Iowa?
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Woods, then? Forest? Grove? Stand? Thicket? Briarpatch? Copse? Surely you've seen a crick. Not a creek, but a crick.
 
electricmanscott said:
Better give that guy what he wants. :D


Anyway, I used to be one of those "20 amp for this 20 amp for that blah blah hurumph hurumph"....guys, then I actually thought about it rather than just trying to be "better" than the other guy.

20 amp for the sa cicuits, 15 for everything else. There is just no reason to run 20 amp circuits for anything other than the s/a circuits.
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Thats the way I do it too. I always put fridge on its own 15 amp circuit and haven't had a problem with this practice so far.
 
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Woods, then? Forest? Grove? Stand? Thicket? Briarpatch? Copse? Surely you've seen a crick. Not a creek, but a crick.[/QUOTE]


I think the word I knew when I lived in Iowa was "corn.":grin:
(My mother would scold me if she knew I was being mean to Iowa.)
 
electriciangirl said:
480sparky said:
Beats me. I'm not a realtor. But 667 bucks an acre seems way low. Maybe 3 or 4 grand per, especially since it's pretty much all timber? Good hunting land, though! The HO put this in the basement:

I was born in Iowa-I don't seem to recall "timber" as part of my vocabulary until I moved to Wisconsin. Is there really such a thing in Iowa?
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My sister moved to Iowa from here in the northwoods. She says her boyfriend meets his hunting buddies not out in the woods, but rather by the tree!!
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