LarryFine
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Yes. A hallway 10' or longer must have at least one.
Required receptacles
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James L
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- Kansas Cty, Mo, USA
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But wouldn't have to put one in front of a railing. Could be on a wall elsewhere.
kwired
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Yes it does, but as mentioned doesn't need to follow the 6/12 rule. neither does a foyer. But if there is sufficient enough amount of railing that a receptacle would still be required you probably using a floor outlet or some the other not so desired options brought up in this thread. To have this problem with a hallway you about need to have railing on both sides of said hallway for it's entire length though.
James L
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Maybe a catwalk
kwired
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Would be a pretty rare thing I would think in dwellings, but someone will think of a reason here or there to have something like that.Maybe a catwalk
Maybe more likely to have an enclosed overpass of some sort that is all windows with no easy place to put a receptacle?
James L
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- Electrician
I have, too. And that should be counted separately from any loft area on either end. Not real practical to require a receptacle there, but technically.....
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- New Jersey
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- Journeyman Electrician
What code wording do you think may require a receptacle there? The closest thing I can see in 210.52 is a hallway but IMO that is not a hallway.
James L
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- Kansas Cty, Mo, USA
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It serves the same purpose as any other hallway, just open-air instead of enclosed
James L
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- Electrician
Catwalk vs Corridor - What's the difference?
As nouns the difference between catwalk and corridor is that catwalk is (nautical) an elevated enclosed passage providing access fore and aft from the bridge of a merchant vessel while corridor is...
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- New Jersey
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- Journeyman Electrician
Same purpose or not IMO calling a catwalk a hallway is a stretch.
I’m going to play stupid Sam here a minute..
How would you trim this out to look acceptable?
I’m kinda like the others and thought floor box was the only option.
kwired
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- NE Nebraska
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I don't believe you would consider the larger area at the far end to be a space that needs to utilize the 6-12 spacing rules either, it is more "hallway".I have seen 'catwalks' in homes. More like a 'bridge'.
If that is so no reason a receptacle on the conventional "wall(s)" cans serve as the required receptacle for this "hallway".
Worst case where the centerline changes, you may need to consider to be separate hallways?
Again, it's not what I think, what I consider, what I call it.
It's what the AHJ think, considers, and calls it.
kwired
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On something like this absolutely. Something more defined by code can be more debatable. Not saying you will get your way, just is more debatable.
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- San Francisco Bay Area, CA, USA
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- Electrical Engineer
If this is still in the design stage, you could have the banister maker change to having a tall bottom fascia that you can then use as a chase fir the wiring and put receptacles in with trim to match the wood.
winnie
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- Springfield, MA, USA
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- Electric motor research
If the receptacle is positioned between the balustiers, the freestanding rmc solution might look fine, especially if they are iron balustiers.
A short drywall 'monolith' under the banister might also look fine.
But if the banister is already in and this receptacle is being added as a correction then the floor receptacle is likely the simplest solution.
A banister is being considered a wall, but it is a porous wall. I wonder what the AHJ would say about a receptacle on the top of the wall just below the banister. A cord could easily reach and be plugged in....
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rnatalie
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I have exactly that situation and put in these Racro floor outlet. The trim flange is big enough that it's not an issue for the flooring guys to work around.
I like them because you can plug into them and close the lid leaving the cord emerging from a slot in the lid.
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I like them because you can plug into them and close the lid leaving the cord emerging from a slot in the lid.
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