Residential Wiring Practices

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Never saw it But there was a guy at my shop that would jump out of a 2nd story window holding onto a wire off a spin board....You might not believe it but this guy was nuts.... Ha also liked to use Coax connectors as one hitters..:smile:
 
splinetto said:
Never saw it But there was a guy at my shop that would jump out of a 2nd story window holding onto a wire off a spin board....You might not believe it but this guy was nuts....
Somehow, I believe it. :rolleyes:

Ha also liked to use Coax connectors as one hitters..:smile:
Bob, I'm behaving! :wink:
 
splinetto said:
Never saw it But there was a guy at my shop that would jump out of a 2nd story window holding onto a wire off a spin board....You might not believe it but this guy was nuts.... Ha also liked to use Coax connectors as one hitters..:smile:

You have a guy jumping out of windows,(and if hurt would no doubt cry it was job related and milk workers comp ) and all you guys are worried about is how pretty you can make NM look by using a box of staples per room??????? Sounds like the Coax connectors have been passed around the shop afew times:roll:
 
splinetto said:
the problem is some people don't know what neat is...

Neither does electricity.

I will continue to wire for code compliance in a fairly neat manner but I am not going to slow down to make what is going to be covered 'pretty'.
 
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"Neat and workman like" would not be number one on the list but it would be on there:grin:
 
iwire said:
Neither does electricity.

I will continue to wire for code compliance in a fairly neat manner but I am not going to slow down to make what is going to be covered 'pretty'.
I never saw an adjective in front of "neat". Here are some other adjectives that might help you get around being neat.....Somewhat.....Kinda....Sorta....Can't see it from my house.. Good enough for the girls I date....It will get covered up......
 
splinetto said:
I never saw an adjective in front of "neat". Here are some other adjectives that might help you get around being neat.....Somewhat.....Kinda....Sorta....Can't see it from my house.. Good enough for the girls I date....It will get covered up......
(Maybe not an adjective it might be a adverb or something like that)
 
splinetto said:
I never saw an adjective in front of "neat". Here are some other adjectives that might help you get around being neat.....Somewhat.....Kinda....Sorta....Can't see it from my house.. Good enough for the girls I date....It will get covered up......


Gosh splinetto, you must know me. I've used all of those and always passed. It is always to code. And I'm kind of like I-wire- it really is kind of neat. Speed likes "kind of neat". Flat out sloppy isn't as fast as kind of neat.
 
splinetto said:
It will get covered up......

Yes it will.

Now if you can tell me how costing the customer more money to make what will be covered up pretty will make the electrical system better or safer or more energy efficient I would love to hear it. :)
 
You have to take all the twists out of the romex otherwise the electrons will get sick. :laughs:

I agree with iwire. I find myself saying to my helper or myself the same thing: "almost all of our best work gets covered up" I like to make NM look decent no matter what I am doing, but I take time and money into consideration first. I personally havent ran NM diagonaly before, but I also do not see anything wrong with it. Everything I do that is going to get covered up, I make sure it is past code compliant, but at the same time, if I have a twist or 2 in the romex, I am not going to kill myself.

~Matt
 
iwire said:
Yes it will.

Now if you can tell me how costing the customer more money to make what will be covered up pretty will make the electrical system better or safer or more energy efficient I would love to hear it. :)
Is there anything in the code that is there to save the customer money? Also the customer deserves what they are paying for.
 
Residential wiring practices

Residential wiring practices

After taking half of the morning reading this thread here's my thoughts.
All of you have good points.
Around here I start by drilling my holes like Stickboy, as straight and in line as possible because straight runs pull easier. I run my wires neat but not to bend or pull wires to tight. All home runs are pulled in the same area. I staple all wires within six inches from the box and about every four feet of so just to keep them in place and to look neat.
The reason I do this is because I think if you keep most of your wires in one area you have less chance of getting them damaged. Maybe I waste wire according to some of you but that is how I prefer to do it at no extra cost to the HO. Lets face it running wires neat that are going to be covered up makes no since to most of you but it does look great to everyone. Wires run neatly and close together are subject to less damage. In my area most of our problems have been from sheet rockers and carpenters being careless. I also use nail plates when necessary to protect wires that are not drilled in the middle of studs.
Don't have time to look up code references but I bet I-Wire know by heart the right code reference on this subject. As I understand it to read it says to do work in a neat manor. Just think if you run wires as the crow flies anyone installing insulation or putting down floor in the attic would have a hard time. Have any of you ever put insulation under a house? Just think if the wires ran as the crow flies it would be very hard to install insulation. (One good thing is that you would not need wire to hold insulation just thread it through the wires.)
Well it just my two cents worth and I will not change and neither will most of you. What ever makes your boat float that the NEC and the inspector in your area will accept. Semper Fi. (WOW this was like writing a book)
 
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splinetto said:
The one hole for multiple wire topic got me thinking at work.(And Im apparently the only one on here that does that). Why do I run my wires horizontal and vertical with the framing members? It would be much faster to just pull them diaginal if need be. Not saying that I would even do it But does anyone here do it that way?

Theres no code that states you have to run your wire one way or the other, however code does state that work shall be done in a professional manner. It boils down to this, if you take a little extra time and make your work neat using 45* bends then the inspector will see that you take pride in your work and he won't rape you with a fine tooth comb. But if he see's that you've just thrown yor wires around then you better believe that he will take his time and check every little thing you've done.
 
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lorddrago said:
Theres no code that states you have to run your wire one way or the other, however code does state that work shall be done in a professional manner. It boils down to this, if you take a little extra time and make your work neat using 45* bends then the inspector will see that you take pride in your work and he won't rape you with a fine tooth comb. But if he see's that you've just thrown yor wires around then you better believe that he will take his time and check every little thing you've done.

I agree with this post.
I just wish you had posted this before I posted my long version I would have not have board everyone with my long post. Semper Fi
 
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