Ridiculous GE breaker hold-down Kit.

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jumper said:
Trying to jog my brain here.

I remember something about bus stabs, the notch where the breaker goes onto the bus, and incompatibility with the two for certain panels.....cannot remember....
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The notches are for twin breakers, I believe. I didn't use twins very often so I don't remember. I also think the older GE breakers may not fit in the newer panels. At one time GE and ITE were almost totally compatible but that changed many years ago.

To be honest, I haven't been in the field that often in the past 9 years so I am not certain of anything anymore. LOL
 
Dennis Alwon said:
The notches are for twin breakers, I believe. I didn't use twins very often so I don't remember. I also think the older GE breakers may not fit in the newer panels. At one time GE and ITE were almost totally compatible but that changed many years ago.

To be honest, I haven't been in the field that often in the past 9 years so I am not certain of anything anymore. LOL
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Yeah, that prolly it. CTL vs non CTL or something like that. IDK, I forget.

Being a lab rat, I do not keep up with a lot of stuff now also. Brain fade...:D
 
meternerd said:
Am I missing something? One is G7321, one is M7321. Is that not a part #? Which is the one that works?
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Not a part number. These would be THQL2160. As already mentioned the stamped "G" and "M" stuff could be batch or plant numbers. These also have symbols, for example "G745&".

jumper said:
Trying to jog my brain here.

I remember something about bus stabs, the notch where the breaker goes onto the bus, and incompatibility with the two for certain panels.....cannot remember....
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CTL and non-CTL would have rejection "tabs" which are really just a longer and shorter notch above the bus connector stab. I thought the OP was referring to the jog in just above the bus stab slot...on one it seems to be 1/4" higher than the other.
 
Craigv said:
CTL and non-CTL would have rejection "tabs" which are really just a longer and shorter notch above the bus connector stab. I thought the OP was referring to the jog in just above the bus stab slot...on one it seems to be 1/4" higher than the other.
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Yep, I confused the issues.:ashamed1:

As I said, it was a thought that popped out, was not sure if it applied. It does not.
 
jumper said:
I say we blame gremlins. Whadda ya think?:D
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If a gremlin is an engineer that works for GE -- why not?

I am with those that mentioned something to effect that same part number should be compatible with older equipment that accepted same part number, otherwise a new part number should have been issued.
 
kwired said:
If a gremlin is an engineer that works for GE -- why not?

I am with those that mentioned something to effect that same part number should be compatible with older equipment that accepted same part number, otherwise a new part number should have been issued.
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That was my story and I'm sticking with it!
 
Ridiculous GE breaker hold-down Kit.

Alright here it is..... box on top works with hold-down retainer, box on bottom does not. You tell me the difference; only thing I see is they’re made in different countries, and one says Model A, the other Model C. But what does that even mean ?!

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brantmacga said:
Alright here it is..... box on top works with hold-down retainer, box on bottom does not. You tell me the difference; only thing I see is they’re made in different countries, and one says Model A, the other Model C. But what does that even mean ?!

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Even the SKU codes are the same. I can't think of any reason other than sad experience any electrician could be aware of this going into a project.
 
Some of the best ways to spot a counterfeit breaker include:


Suspicious or missing markings
Missing certification marks
Incorrect colors on labels or packaging
Incorrect shape of design of the product
Misspellings on the product
The country of origin or manufacturing location is incorrect
The price is very low
 
People here act surprised... When will people finally get it that GE doesn't care because they a trillion dollar untouchable company with their fingers in everything from glues to trains to neuro-anatomy?

I can assure you this typical for pretty much everything involving GE. Had the same issue with appliance parts on more than one occasion. Same part number, same model in the parts tear-down, 5 very different parts in existence with the same numbers stamped on them, 2 of which were even being made at the same time. Had GE reps tell me they no longer made certain Powermark Plus accessories, distributor tells me they order them all the time new from GE :roll:
 
jumper said:
No not really, IMO.

We are more curious about the anomaly as I see it.

Prolly some simple explanation.

I searched the model angle for a few minutes. Found nada.
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GE revised their internals to be more cost economical aligning them with the THQP (thin) ones and shifting manufacturing plants. The issue however is that their modeled case is not identical in several regards. If I worked for GE I would have clarified the limitations associated with the new versions.
 
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