romex in residential homes

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celtic said:
I never worked for you!

...and I fear I may have become as anal as my former foreman (this was close to 20 years ago) ;)


I was talking with a local building inspector yesterday who was telling me about a guy who became an inspector and enjoyed taking former bosses to task when inspecting there work.
 
acrwc10 said:
I was talking with a local building inspector yesterday who was telling me about a guy who became an inspector and enjoyed taking former bosses to task when inspecting there work.

LMAO...I'm getting my paperwork together for the registration requirements for the inspectors classes.

Another one of my former employers is now inspecting my jobs - for such a densly populated State, NJ is small ;)
 
Sorry not that guy. it is fun though when the people I used to work for started to kiss my @#!@ for a change. That was reward enough then rather make them squorm. Now there the respect I was looking for when I worked for them. Sad very sad.
 
celtic said:
LMAO...I'm getting my paperwork together for the registration requirements for the inspectors classes.

Another one of my former employers is now inspecting my jobs - for such a densly populated State, NJ is small ;)

I don't know about you but it seems the older I get the smaller the city I live in gets;) It is good and bad. That is why we don't burn bridges.Maybe scorch afew on the way.
 
celtic said:
Funny thing is...the employer/inspector fired me!

Age has a way of maturing a person.

vengeance is best served cold.............:rolleyes:
 
rasmithircgov said:
Ok maybe I over stated. Im not anal. Theres smarter people then me who write that book. Ill listen to someone talk code. Ill hear there side with code Art's and backing, but i will not listen to " Ive been doing it this way for ................. years."

Don't be so quick to assume that the people that write that book are smarter than you! Some of the changes they come out with really make you wonder at times. I'm on the same page as you are about listening to someone talk code. If I disagree with something in the code, and someone can present a valid agruement about it that backs it up, then I am open minded enough to change my mind about it. But when someone says "I've been doing it this way for years" is the same thing as your parents telling you when you were a kid "Because I said so that's why!".
 
I agree with RacerDave, those sitting on the CMP's are no different than us, they may just have better backing. Remember, it takes a group of people to make up a CMP and they do spend a good amount of time putting the NEC together, and even with this being the case there are mistakes in the NEC.

Speaking about a "good amount of time spent" look at some of us here. :grin: :grin: :grin:

Roger
 
racerdave3 said:
But when someone says "I've been doing it this way for years" is the same thing as your parents telling you when you were a kid "Because I said so that's why!".
Not quite! My old man had a belt to back him up (or back me up)!:grin:
 
just remember the panels are made up of mostly manufactures and NOT
guys like us that work....hence most of the code is product driven.
 
donselectric said:
just remember the panels are made up of mostly manufactures and NOT
guys like us that work....hence most of the code is product driven.

Donselectric, although manufacturers are well represented on the panels, they are not the majority, look at the members of each panel in the Code Book.

In addition to some manufacturers, the panels are made up of Engineers, Electricians, Contractors, Inspectors, NECA representatives, IBEW representatives, Instructors, POCO's, etc..., pretty much people like us. ;)

Roger
 
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acrwc10 said:
I was talking with a local building inspector yesterday who was telling me about a guy who became an inspector and enjoyed taking former bosses to task when inspecting there work.


I can do one better.I know a building inspector that went to work for a builder, Pay was twice the amount and took joy in tearing the other inspectors apart on what they were citing.BTW he passes every building inspection without a single tag in 3 years :) GO TEAM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
donselectric said:
just remember the panels are made up of mostly manufactures and NOT
guys like us that work....hence most of the code is product driven.
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toddpatrick said:
I have recently received a notice from one of my inspectors about art. 334.30. He is stating that the romex in the attic, that is laying on top of the trusses, must be secured by a staple, tiewrap, etc.. every 41/2 feet. I understand that this is what the code says, but obviously the romex is supported every 24" by the trusses, and if it is stapled and pulled tight at the square off points, why must it be secured to the top of the trusses every 41/2 feet? The wire may move 6" either way, if it is pulled on. Do I have an argument here?

I'll admit it, I don't fasten Romex every 4 1/2' in a attic.
I follow the rules around the scuttle hole, and every where else, I let it lay on the truss chord (or ceiling joist).
IMO, this way the cable is less likely to be damaged if someone steps on it between the joists.
I also don't pull the runs tight between points for the same reason.
I will staple where the cable passes next to a nail plate (intersection) to prevent the cable from being cut if someone steps on it and pulls it tight against the plate.
Why does it need to be secured, other than "the code says so"?
It will probably be buried in insulation and never seen (or touched) again. Plus, if it can move, it's (IMHO) is less likely to be damaged if it's ever "stretched" (stepped on).
Does everyone else (whose willing to admit) staple in the attic?
Just a opinion.
steve

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