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There's no max, but if you go too terribly long with the sheathing, the inspector may ding you on a pure workmanship basis. Plus, keeping the insulation right at about 1/4" is wise, else it will make the devices hard to put back into the box if you keep more sheathing than that. Keep in mind that the code is permissive. If it doesn't say you can't, you can.

[ May 30, 2005, 01:10 PM: Message edited by: mdshunk ]
 
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Thanks MDSHUNK a employee had asked the question because of those new romex strippers that cut the insolation you can't get as close
 
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Originally posted by theradical:
...those new romex strippers that cut the insolation you can't get as close
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You should be skinning the sheathing before it gets put in the box anyhow.
 
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Originally posted by mdshunk:
You should be skinning the sheathing before it gets put in the box anyhow.
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Absolutely! Often, if I'm running two or three NM's into a single box KO, I'll strip the sheaths evenly and pre-twist the EGC's. I may even strip the conductors and hook the device wires, too.

[ May 30, 2005, 01:29 PM: Message edited by: LarryFine ]
 
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I would agree I have always stripped the sheathing before entering box however I have employees who think different when I questioned them they said they did it with other employers for speed purposes I said it was a code violation and started this question
 
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You should be skinning the sheathing before it gets put in the box anyhow.
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I don't work with other people much, I thought I was the only guy who did that.

I have no problem stripping NM insulation from inside the box though either. I use my side cutters (diagonals) to snip either side and it pulls off with zero damage to anything.

I've yet to see a tool made for it that can say the same.
 
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I agree, strip first then insert into K.O.

I used to work for a real shmuck that insisted we staple the romex to the studs AFTER we strip the wire and insert it into the KO! What a pain in the A$$!

My crew did things My way!
We were all fired the same day!
:)

Dave
 
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So, if you ever get light on work, There's a bunch of competition out here that might need a guy. :D

[ May 30, 2005, 06:36 PM: Message edited by: physis ]
 
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Originally posted by davedottcom:
I used to work for a real shmuck that insisted we staple the romex to the studs AFTER we strip the wire and insert it into the KO!
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I guess I'm a schmuck, then, although I don't insist others do it that way. I find it easier than bending and straightening out the wire after stapling, especially three #12 NM's.
 
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I use these things:
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snip the (outer)insulation, jam in box, pull insulation off, staple...next
 
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I insist my NM looks anwhere between good and great. When I use a helper he or she is gonna have to learn how to do that. I don't really care how it's done. As long it looks somewhere between good and great.

GC's really like that unless there paying hourly, in which case they can hardly tolerate it. :D

[ May 30, 2005, 08:53 PM: Message edited by: physis ]
 
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I haven't seen those yet celtic. Do you like 'em?

Do they not damage the conductor insulation?
 
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Originally posted by mdshunk:
There's no max, but if you go too terribly long with the sheathing, the inspector may ding you on a pure workmanship basis.
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I'm surprised nobody jumped on this. No way would I stand for an inspector pulling something like that. I strip first before putting the cables into the box and would not leave much sheathing in the box anyway, but it is purely personal preference as to how you do it. I just happen to prefer the right way. :D
 
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Originally posted by physis:
I haven't seen those yet celtic. Do you like 'em?

Do they not damage the conductor insulation?
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I've been using them for a few years now (on third set)...they are pretty amazing, you can snip the outer insulation (12/2 or 14/2) w/o ANY damage to interior insulation...jam the full cable right into the box ~ loose conductors are a pain...then pull that outer jacket off to expose the interior conductors.
The tool also "features" strippers for 14 and 12 wire, screw cutters for 6/32 and 8/32's...AND those handy little hole for making device "loops".

I've found that they are giving my linemans a nice view of the backseat.

For a Romex rough in: a hammer, tape measure, 10-in-1 screwdriver (probably overkill ...LOL :) ), and this stripper is pretty much all I need.
 
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It's nice that they also shine your shoes but based on your satisfaction with 'em I think I might grab a set from my supply dudes.
 
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It looks like everyone does it the same way to junction boxes,outlets and receptacles. How do you do it in a panel box thats hot? In a live panel box wouldn't make more sense to put the NM wire through the connector on top of the panel then pull off the sheathing? Trim off the sheathing and pull up the wire so it's the same with all the rest. Just wondering why they don't do it like this. I think if you trim it before you put it in you might have a better chance catching a hot terminal with the lose wires being feed in. What's your thought on this?
Jim
 
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