SE Cable outside

augie47

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Augie, any particular reason why you would be concerned? SE cable in the soffit would be required to be run using the same rules as NM cable so if those rules are followed is the SE cable run in a soffit unsafe?
If it has OCP then I don't see any difference or problem. I may have misread into thinking it was SE with no OCP in which case I have some concern about it being "hidden".
 

infinity

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If it has OCP then I don't see any difference or problem. I may have misread into thinking it was SE with no OCP in which case I have some concern about it being "hidden".
I agree. The OP did clarify that this is a feeder.
 

Dennis Alwon

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He also said he built a soffit below the enclosure, which I took to mean a built covering over the cable, and not the house's soffit. We would probably use an LB or an elbow in this situation when necessary.
That is exactly how I read it. He called it a soffit which is not the term. It sounds like he built a box around it.
 

letgomywago

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This Exposed=subject to physical damage thing drives me bananas 🍌 😡

I agree with Fred that most of the time surface mounted cables are actually safer than hidden (don't forget about rodents in addition to errant nails screws and drills).
So this then begs the question. Should the NEC define what's subject to physical damage? This is a can of worms but would you welcome everyone getting the same can? Maybe replacing the term with the UL crush requirements for each wiring method
 

NEC_NERD

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I know this is acceptable in many jurisdictions but as mentioned above "subject to physical damage" is not clearly defined in the NEC so it's left up to the discretion of the inspector/AHJ. 230.50(b) would then come into play. 1-5 are cut and dry but 6 also allows the inspector to use his discretion on whether or not the installation is an "approved means" of protection. Throw it in conduit and call it a day.
 
So this then begs the question. Should the NEC define what's subject to physical damage? This is a can of worms but would you welcome everyone getting the same can? Maybe replacing the term with the UL crush requirements for each wiring method
I think they should. For example perhaps they could state that where there is a driveway a zone from grade to 4 feet would be SFD, and on non driveway sides maybe grade to 1 foot (for weed whacking and landscaping activities - usually there's foundation there so typically not mounting cables there anyway). Other than that, I just don't at all see how any other zone on the surface of a house is SFD.
 

letgomywago

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I think they should. For example perhaps they could state that where there is a driveway a zone from grade to 4 feet would be SFD, and on non driveway sides maybe grade to 1 foot (for weed whacking and landscaping activities - usually there's foundation there so typically not mounting cables there anyway). Other than that, I just don't at all see how any other zone on the surface of a house is SFD.
That'd be alright with me but WA says it's 10 ft up
 
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