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[iwire]

I disagree. I think there is a great deal of respect for engineers around here and in the trades.

That doesn't mean that everyone that claims to be or even has a degree in engineering gets that respect.

I think you have a persecution complex and take every comment personally. I hear bad things about electricians all the time and I agree with most of them because I know the assholes that give the trade a bad name. Sometimes blanket statements are make that can make you think people are talking about everyone in a profession but it's really the bad apples that are really the point of the statement. Some engineers can be a pain to deal with and those are the one's people remember.

I even know some good lawyers, my daughter is a lawyer but I almost never say anything good about them because there are a lot of bad one's.

If you have that big brain either use it or give it back to the Wizard and stop with the strawman arguements.

Very well put and I agree.

 

[Ingenieur]

I disagree. I think there is a great deal of respect for engineers around here and in the trades.

That doesn't mean that everyone that claims to be or even has a degree in engineering gets that respect.

I think you have a persecution complex and take every comment personally. I hear bad things about electricians all the time and I agree with most of them because I know the assholes that give the trade a bad name. Sometimes blanket statements are make that can make you think people are talking about everyone in a profession but it's really the bad apples that are really the point of the statement. Some engineers can be a pain to deal with and those are the one's people remember.

I even know some good lawyers, my daughter is a lawyer but I almost never say anything good about them because there are a lot of bad one's.

If you have that big brain either use it or give it back to the Wizard and stop with the strawman arguements.

Very insulting and not so passive aggressive
that little nugget: the minimize others position by labeling 'strawman' lol
demean and dismiss is your sop
Persecution complex lol you really think you have influence over people in a chat room?
how many insults can you heap in one post?
you can't psychoanalyze people thru the web
what you think matters not, get over youself
I say this with 0 animosity, only for your benefit because I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you have no idea what you have written

the comment was made that a degreed ee could not understand the concept of a dedicated ckt vs scabbing onto a local ckt, or even that it may be code required
that it is beyond his ability to comprehend
insulting and demeaning

 

[growler]

Engineers are the worst customers to engage with and explain why we have to do certain things.

the comment was made that a degreed ee could not understand the concept of a dedicated ckt vs scabbing onto a local ckt, or even that it may be code required
that it is beyond his ability to comprehend insulting and demeaning

Just because a person comprehends something doesn't mean they are willing to accept it.

Example: I explain to a lawyer that there is a local ordinance that all new services must be underground. I have no doubt that he understands the rule well enough. He's says he will try for a variance. He does have that right but it's normally a waste of time if your only excuse not to comply with the rules is that you are a cheap shate. If I say that a lawyer can be hard to deal with that doesn't mean I consider him/her to be inept. They didn't get the variance after trying for some time.

Someone can be hard to engage and not be a dumb ass.

 

[gadfly56]

Just because a person comprehends something doesn't mean they are willing to accept it.

Example: I explain to a lawyer that there is a local ordinance that all new services must be underground. I have no doubt that he understands the rule well enough. He's says he will try for a variance. He does have that right but it's normally a waste of time if your only excuse not to comply with the rules is that you are a cheap shate. If I say that a lawyer can be hard to deal with that doesn't mean I consider him/her to be inept. They didn't get the variance after trying for some time.

Someone can be hard to engage and not be a dumb ass.

There is a saying, "Doctors make the worst patients." As an engineer, I recognize that I know just enough about certain technical matters to be a danger to myself and others while otherwise being competent within my area of expertise. I try not to be "helpful" with the service tech who is fixing my refrigerator; he probably has seen the same problem a hundred times and know exactly what to do. Better for me if I just write the check.