hockeyoligist2
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Should There be a Ban on Incandescent Lamps?
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stickboy1375
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I'll pay for whatever light I choose to use...
robbietan
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interesting that the politicians can ban incandescent lamps 'to save the environment' but are actually not doing anything against gas guzzling SUVs that not only consumes too much fuel but also produces too much emissions
stickboy1375
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robbietan said:
Nothing better than a soccer mom in a car she can't even back up...:grin: (What do you mean those mirrors are not for putting on makeup?)
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My house is loaded with 75w halogen PAR 30 lamps on dimmers. Some of them spot versions, some flood versions. When someone makes a suitable replacement CFL I will use them. As of right now they do not exist.
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Yes we should ban incandescents. :wink:
And then we can start banning other wasteful things...
Of course any vehicle that does not get 40 MPG
People who take more food then they eat.
Home heating should be limited to keeping the home above 33 F and Air conditioning should be banned entirely.
Traffic lights....ban them....they are big wasters of electricity, fuel and my time.
And then we can start banning other wasteful things...
Of course any vehicle that does not get 40 MPG
People who take more food then they eat.
Home heating should be limited to keeping the home above 33 F and Air conditioning should be banned entirely.
Traffic lights....ban them....they are big wasters of electricity, fuel and my time.
Pierre C Belarge
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Westchester County NY
Westchester County NY
It would seem that the idea of banning Incandescents is growing...here is how Westchester County may handle the situation.
www.westchester.com/westchester_new..._to_ban_incandescent_lights_200703217586.html
Westchester County NY
It would seem that the idea of banning Incandescents is growing...here is how Westchester County may handle the situation.
www.westchester.com/westchester_new..._to_ban_incandescent_lights_200703217586.html
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Roger
Do you realize that there is legislation in NC to ban incandescents as we speak. It was in the editorial section of the Raleigh NEws ad observer this past Tuesday.
Do you realize that there is legislation in NC to ban incandescents as we speak. It was in the editorial section of the Raleigh NEws ad observer this past Tuesday.
More feel good legislation by the PC crowd. next crisis will be that mercury has been "discovered" in 4' tubes! Oh, the humanity! Oh what shall we do? Analysis paralysis, and knee jerk reaction without critical thinking by the legislative body, is determined to make us all outlaws.
Dennis Alwon said:
I had heard this also, but have not seen it myself.
In all seriousness, we all know there is better efficiency out there in many areas and making it practical and available should not be as hard as it is.
If the price for KWH's were rising as fast and as drastically as gas prices have recently, (last couple of years) incandescent lamps would probably be somewhat self regulating like the aforementioned large SUV's are.
Roger
pismo
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Educate not legislate.
peteo
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A google news search for "CFL legislation" showed that this issue is a daily matter. A bill in the US congress appears interesting,
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=110_cong_bills&docid=f:h1547ih.txt.pdf
H. R. 1547
To prohibit the sale of certain inefficient light bulbs, and require the development of a plan for increasing the use of more efficient light bulbs
by consumers and businesses.
by consumers and businesses.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
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ARCH 15, 2007
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=110_cong_bills&docid=f:h1547ih.txt.pdf
peter d
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I think we should ban self-ballasted compact fluorescents. They don't ever seem to last their rated life, they have this nice feature of melting down or catastrophic failure, and the light quality is one step above horrible.
QES
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if you ban incandescent , then please ban all the small and big block engine .:grin:
BigDon
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Also incandescent
Also incandescent
Would they also ban car headlights, including halogen, which are also a form of incandescent lights. What about older traffic stop lights and warning lights? Movie projector lights (quartz-tungsten-halogen) are also technically incandescent lights. Light houses also use incandescent lights.
I wouldn't mind if they gave incentives to purchase CFLs, but to outright ban the purchase of incandescents is foolish. Next, they will fear the UV radiation that comes from flourescent lamps and ban those, too, in favor of still-expensive LEDs.
Also incandescent
Would they also ban car headlights, including halogen, which are also a form of incandescent lights. What about older traffic stop lights and warning lights? Movie projector lights (quartz-tungsten-halogen) are also technically incandescent lights. Light houses also use incandescent lights.
I wouldn't mind if they gave incentives to purchase CFLs, but to outright ban the purchase of incandescents is foolish. Next, they will fear the UV radiation that comes from flourescent lamps and ban those, too, in favor of still-expensive LEDs.
Jeff Weissman Electric
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Australia says lights out to incandescent bulbs
Australia says lights out to incandescent bulbs
Australia says lights out to incandescent bulbs
Last Updated: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 | 12:17 PM ET
CBC News
Australia has announced it will ban incandescent light bulbs in three years in an effort to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
Environment Minister Malcolm Turnbull made the announcement Tuesday, saying replacing incandescent light bulbs with fluorescent bulbs would cut 800,000 tonnes from Australia's current emissions levels by 2012.
A model of an 1879 street light burns in the Edison Museum in Edison, N.J., in front of a portrait of inventor Thomas A. Edison. Australia announced on Tuesday it would ban the venerable technology.A model of an 1879 street light burns in the Edison Museum in Edison, N.J., in front of a portrait of inventor Thomas A. Edison. Australia announced on Tuesday it would ban the venerable technology.
(Mike Derer/Associated Press)
"It'll be illegal to sell a product that doesn't meet [an energy efficiency] standard, so that will happen by 2009 [or] 2010," Turnbull told ABC radio in Australia. "So by that stage, you simply won't be able to buy incandescent light bulbs because they won't meet the energy standard."
Opposition parties welcomed the ban but said it would still leave the government six million tonnes short of its target to reduce emissions to 597 million tonnes annually, or 108 per cent of 1990 emission levels.
The standard incandescent bulb, developed for the mass market more than 125 years ago, consists of a metal filament glowing white-hot and surrounded by an inert gas. They have become a target of advocates for energy efficiency because they lose most of their energy as heat.
Turnbull said the switch to fluorescent bulbs would lower household lighting costs by 66 per cent.
Australia says lights out to incandescent bulbs
Australia says lights out to incandescent bulbs
Last Updated: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 | 12:17 PM ET
CBC News
Australia has announced it will ban incandescent light bulbs in three years in an effort to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
Environment Minister Malcolm Turnbull made the announcement Tuesday, saying replacing incandescent light bulbs with fluorescent bulbs would cut 800,000 tonnes from Australia's current emissions levels by 2012.
A model of an 1879 street light burns in the Edison Museum in Edison, N.J., in front of a portrait of inventor Thomas A. Edison. Australia announced on Tuesday it would ban the venerable technology.A model of an 1879 street light burns in the Edison Museum in Edison, N.J., in front of a portrait of inventor Thomas A. Edison. Australia announced on Tuesday it would ban the venerable technology.
(Mike Derer/Associated Press)
"It'll be illegal to sell a product that doesn't meet [an energy efficiency] standard, so that will happen by 2009 [or] 2010," Turnbull told ABC radio in Australia. "So by that stage, you simply won't be able to buy incandescent light bulbs because they won't meet the energy standard."
Opposition parties welcomed the ban but said it would still leave the government six million tonnes short of its target to reduce emissions to 597 million tonnes annually, or 108 per cent of 1990 emission levels.
The standard incandescent bulb, developed for the mass market more than 125 years ago, consists of a metal filament glowing white-hot and surrounded by an inert gas. They have become a target of advocates for energy efficiency because they lose most of their energy as heat.
Turnbull said the switch to fluorescent bulbs would lower household lighting costs by 66 per cent.
Jeff Weissman Electric
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Canada's new government to ban inefficient light bulbs
Canada's new government to ban inefficient light bulbs
The Honourable Gary Lunn, Minister of Natural Resources, joined by the Honourable John Baird, Minister of the Environment, announced today that Canada?s New Government is taking another important step to protect the environment and the health of Canadians by introducing national standards for lighting efficiency to come into force by 2012.
"Making the switch to more efficient lighting is one of the easiest and most effective things we can do to reduce energy use and harmful emissions," said Minister Lunn. "The introduction of these standards will lead to a strong national policy for lighting efficiency to complement actions taken by provinces and territories."
Canada is the second country to introduce such standards. Today?s announcement addresses a broader range of lighting products, providing a substantial environmental benefit and allowing Canadians to see real savings on their energy costs.
"Canada?s New Government is serious about tackling climate change, but we can?t do it alone," said Minister Baird. "Using more energy-efficient light bulbs is a great example of a concrete action Canadians can take at home to help reduce harmful greenhouse gas emissions and save energy."
The national standards for lighting efficiency will be implemented through existing mechanisms, including the Regulations of Canada?s Energy Efficiency Act, and developed with industry and provincial and territorial governments, several of which have already announced their support for such a move. It is expected the Canadian regulations will be established by the end of this year, with the phase-out of inefficient incandescent lighting in common uses completed by 2012.
"The environmental benefits are clear. By banning inefficient lighting, we can reduce our greenhouse gas emissions by more than 6 million tonnes per year," added Minister Lunn. "More than that, these new standards will help reduce the average household electricity bill by approximately $50 a year."
The ban on inefficient bulbs will include allowances for applications where incandescents are still the only practical alternative, such as in some medical lighting situations, oven lights, and others.
Source: Natural Resources Canada
Canada's new government to ban inefficient light bulbs
The Honourable Gary Lunn, Minister of Natural Resources, joined by the Honourable John Baird, Minister of the Environment, announced today that Canada?s New Government is taking another important step to protect the environment and the health of Canadians by introducing national standards for lighting efficiency to come into force by 2012.
"Making the switch to more efficient lighting is one of the easiest and most effective things we can do to reduce energy use and harmful emissions," said Minister Lunn. "The introduction of these standards will lead to a strong national policy for lighting efficiency to complement actions taken by provinces and territories."
Canada is the second country to introduce such standards. Today?s announcement addresses a broader range of lighting products, providing a substantial environmental benefit and allowing Canadians to see real savings on their energy costs.
"Canada?s New Government is serious about tackling climate change, but we can?t do it alone," said Minister Baird. "Using more energy-efficient light bulbs is a great example of a concrete action Canadians can take at home to help reduce harmful greenhouse gas emissions and save energy."
The national standards for lighting efficiency will be implemented through existing mechanisms, including the Regulations of Canada?s Energy Efficiency Act, and developed with industry and provincial and territorial governments, several of which have already announced their support for such a move. It is expected the Canadian regulations will be established by the end of this year, with the phase-out of inefficient incandescent lighting in common uses completed by 2012.
"The environmental benefits are clear. By banning inefficient lighting, we can reduce our greenhouse gas emissions by more than 6 million tonnes per year," added Minister Lunn. "More than that, these new standards will help reduce the average household electricity bill by approximately $50 a year."
The ban on inefficient bulbs will include allowances for applications where incandescents are still the only practical alternative, such as in some medical lighting situations, oven lights, and others.
Source: Natural Resources Canada
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