Smoke Detector in Deatached Bedroom

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I'm going to ask the inspector, But If you have a detached garage with a bedroom(which needs a smoke) Does it need to be interconnected with the smokes in the main house??
 
Probably not, since you are dealing with a separate building. There are issues concerning the ability to disconnect the circuits within that particular building, etc. Interconnecting your smokes could possibly violate those rules ...:confused:
 
Since it is illegel for a bedroom to exit into a garage, my guess it that you have an unapproved strcture anyways. I would definitly check with the local AHJ.
 
cowboyjwc said:
Since it is illegel for a bedroom to exit into a garage, my guess it that you have an unapproved strcture anyways. I would definitly check with the local AHJ.
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How would you know that the bedroom exits into the garage? :-?
 
Says right in the original post that has a detached garage with a bedroom. Now you could be right and the room could exit only to the exterior, but my guess is that he has something that "our" planning department would probably not approve.

My other thought, that has nothing to do with the post; Is there a bathroom?

My feelers would start to tingle if I got close to this project. You have heating requirements, light and ventilation, seperation between a group R and a group U. Is it really a detached garage with a bedroom or is it a guest house, that may not be allowed, with a garage?

To answer the original question, I would say no, they do not need to be interconnected. I would treat it as an efficency dwelling unit (UBC 310.9.1.6).

I answered the question, because as someone said in another post, "Just because that's the way you do it...."
 
cowboyjwc said:
Says right in the original post that has a detached garage with a bedroom. Now you could be right and the room could exit only to the exterior, but my guess is that he has something that "our" planning department would probably not approve.

My other thought, that has nothing to do with the post; Is there a bathroom?

My feelers would start to tingle if I got close to this project. You have heating requirements, light and ventilation, seperation between a group R and a group U. Is it really a detached garage with a bedroom or is it a guest house, that may not be allowed, with a garage?

To answer the original question, I would say no, they do not need to be interconnected. I would treat it as an efficency dwelling unit (UBC 310.9.1.6).

I answered the question, because as someone said in another post, "Just because that's the way you do it...."
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Wow. This is alot of speculation considering such a basic simple question. :) And I am not picking on you , but this has all the makings of a yes or no question going to 15 pages.
 
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Tony Ottenlips said:
There is no door between the garage and the bedroom. But they are both under the same roof.
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In your first post you said it was detached, now its under the same roof? which is it? Or are you saying the garage and the bedroom are under the same roof? I've never seen a garage NOT built with fire rated walls within a dwelling unit, so I have to ask did anyone pull permits? You should definetely have a fire rated self closing door between the bedroom and the garage...
 
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I'm wondering if this space even meets the definition of a one-family dwelling. In other words are there spaces for eating, cooking and sanitation? If it's not a one-family dwelling, what is it? It's not a Boarding House, a Dormitory, or Residential Care/Assisted Care Facility, so is the sleeping room even permitted? If so, how is it classified? Without meeting dwelling unit, closest would be R-1.....and I doubt that. Great question..what's the answer?.....:-? :)
 
stickboy1375 said:
Why? Do you do this in a house? I see bedrooms above detatched garages all the time, they exit at grade...
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No, I don't put SD in a garage but if it is a detached building that meets the requirements of needing SD then one must be on every level. If the garage were under the room requiring SD then I would think the garage would need a SD also. I am not sure what exit at grade has to do with SD issue.
 
Dennis Alwon said:
No, I don't put SD in a garage but if it is a detached building that meets the requirements of needing SD then one must be on every level. If the garage were under the room requiring SD then I would think the garage would need a SD also. I am not sure what exit at grade has to do with SD issue.
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Good points, but I dont even think this room has a C.O. (Certificate for Occupancy) or can even qualify for one...
 
Why are you guys hammering this guy??? What is so hard to understand here. :confused:

This is a detached garage that also has a bedroom witihin the building. No door between bedroom and garage so obviously the bedroom door exists somewhere else, either outside or through a hallway or stairway. All under one roof.

For added safety I would interconnect a heat detector in the garage with a smoke detector/co2 unit in the bedroom. Might even think of putting a strobe on the outside of the garage. End of story.
 
Tony Ottenlips said:
I'm going to ask the inspector, But If you have a detached garage with a bedroom(which needs a smoke) Does it need to be interconnected with the smokes in the main house??
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The bold part here is the real question...which may lead to other questions as we have seen...


To answer the question that is bolded, I would say no. The interconnection of smoke alarms is not for different buildings, but within one residential building.

All of those other questions would be very specific to the different jurisdictions around the country and all that has been discussed is speculation about what may be.
 
Scott,

If it were a yes or no answer I would have said yes or no. If you called me at my office with that question I would have asked all the same questions, if I didn't I would be remiss in my duties.

When you ask questions that pertain to the codes you need to make sure that you supply all of the information. If he's putting a smoke detector in an illegal dwelling unit what does it matter how he installs it?

Can I run romex outside? Yes. Now wait, you didn't ask me if it was allowed.
 
Tony Ottenlips said:
I'm going to ask the inspector, But If you have a detached garage with a bedroom(which needs a smoke) Does it need to be interconnected with the smokes in the main house??
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No :D See it can be done!
 
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