Splicing sub panel wires to main feeders in panel

[mikee0101]

Looked up codes but still confused whether this allowed or not .Saw the 40% rule . But have always put sub panels on its on breaker .This is on a residential house built in the 60's ?

 

[winnie]

What is your question?

Do you have a separate panel fed without a breaker from a splice on the service conductors? Is this separate panel located next to the main panel? Is this separate panel supplied with separate ground and neutral?

Can you post a photo?

-Jonathan

 

[infinity]

Sounds like the sub-panel is fed by a "tap" to the service conductors.

 

[mikee0101]

What is your question?

Do you have a separate panel fed without a breaker from a splice on the service conductors? Is this separate panel located next to the main panel? Is this separate panel supplied with separate ground and neutral?

Can you post a photo?

-Jonathan

 

[mikee0101]

Trying to post picture but can't find a way to pull from gallery. It is a 200 amp panel with wires going to 150 amp sub panel . Wires were skinned and some type of split bolt added and then just regular black electrical taped .

 

[LarryFine]

Trying to post picture but can't find a way to pull from gallery.

Right-click on image, select Copy Image, click in forum window, right-click, select Paste.

 

[mikee0101]

 

[mikee0101]

This is the main panel with wires spliced going to the sub panel. I always run separate breaker for the sub . Plus that kinda is beyond the 75% rule .

 

[electrofelon]

Are the conductors being tapped service conductors or a feeder?

 

[mikee0101]

The wires taped are the service conductors for main panel . The wires then go to the sub panel .

 

[electrofelon]

Then nothing wrong with it in general, other than the devil of some details. What you have basically becomes a 230.40 exception #2 install, done every day in commercial work. Details of concern would be the length of the service conductors, whether that second panel has a service disconnecting means, and details of the grounding electrode conductor connection.

 

[mikee0101]

Yes it is no longer than 10 feet . And yes second panel has 150 amp fuses .

 

[electrofelon]

.... That said, it sure would be nice to rip that disgusting thing out and put in a nice new panel board!

 

[mikee0101]

Yes putting in a bid now . It also has the meter base in the house , with another one on outside also .