Split wire on ground bar

[electrofelon]

You are correct, but I have found them to be a PITA. If the screw to the bus comes loose while you are tightening the screw for the conductor, you have to pull the conductor back out to get to the screw that loosened up, and they almost always do.

The ones I always come across are notched to straddle the bar so they won't turn. I usually use square d, cant speak for other brands

 

[K8MHZ]

The ones I always come across are notched to straddle the bar so they won't turn. I usually use square d, cant speak for other brands

They still turn just a little sometimes.

 

[jaggedben]

I haven't experienced that problem.

 

[K8MHZ]

I haven't experienced that problem.

You are lucky. Of course, it only happens when you are in a hurry and the battery in your headlamp is getting dim....:rant:

 

[kwired]

I haven't experienced that problem.

Me neither, but I can only speak for Square D version.

 

[K8MHZ]

Me neither, but I can only speak for Square D version.

I never looked to see which brand I had problems with. The pic shows an Ideal. I will pay more attention the next time I am given one to use.

 

[kwired]

I never looked to see which brand I had problems with. The pic shows an Ideal. I will pay more attention the next time I am given one to use.

I am seeing a lug for Eaton's ground bars.

 

[K8MHZ]

I am seeing a lug for Eaton's ground bars.

Dern it. You are correct. I don't know why I was thinking 'Ideal'.

 

[Ravenvalor]

Just get a normal mechanical lug that accommodates the wire size and bolt it to the panel and terminate the wire there.

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This may not work out too well if you are in a corrosive environment and/or outside. Here in central NC I find that just having an outside panel surrounded by shrubbery will deteriorate a panel quickly.

 

[iwire]

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This may not work out too well if you are in a corrosive environment and/or outside. Here in central NC I find that just having an outside panel surrounded by shrubbery will deteriorate a panel quickly.

Stop putting the panels outside.

 

[kwired]

Stop putting the panels outside.

Or get the ones in stainless cabinets and see how your customers, especially residential customers, feel about paying for those.

 

[Ravenvalor]

Or get the ones in stainless cabinets and see how your customers, especially residential customers, feel about paying for those.

Not many people installing panels outside these days but I do see new homes occasionally. The problem is the thousands of older homes that have outside panels.

 

[kwired]

Not many people installing panels outside these days but I do see new homes occasionally. The problem is the thousands of older homes that have outside panels.

If it is severely deteriorated in say 5 years, you have a serious corrosion issue of some sort. If it takes 25-30 years before it starts to get any severity - that is more expected.