Splitting duplex recepts

[Mule]

How many of you actually split duplex recepts any more on a regular basis? I find it in older living rooms, but that's it......and if my hunch is correct that its not hardely done anymore, why is there two sets of screws on a duplex? are we just in a culture trap here.....???

 

[steelersman]

How many of you actually split duplex recepts any more on a regular basis? I find it in older living rooms, but that's it......and if my hunch is correct that its not hardely done anymore, why is there two sets of screws on a duplex? are we just in a culture trap here.....???

2 sets of screws so that those that don't like to backstab can wrap both (in and out) sets of wires on the device.

 

[nakulak]

if its not broke why fix it ?

 

[byourdesky]

i split half-hots

 

[steelersman]

if its not broke why fix it ?

nakulak, you need to read this newsletter: http://www.mikeholt.com/newsletters.php?action=display&letterID=679

 

[Rewire]

We still do this in the master bedroom on custom homes and in condos.

 

[steelersman]

i believe in the 08 code that you are no longer allowed to split the recept and have the bottom one (always hot) count as your required recept for wall space. If using a switched outlet instead of a light, it doesn't cont for the required outlets.

 

[alfiesauce]

How many of you actually split duplex recepts any more on a regular basis? I find it in older living rooms, but that's it......and if my hunch is correct that its not hardely done anymore, why is there two sets of screws on a duplex? are we just in a culture trap here.....???

Do you pigtail every outlet to a single connection point for trim out?

We split receptacles quite a bit in a home- there is almost always a dishwasher/disposal outlet you need to split in a kitchen reno, and we do switched outlets in living rooms and masterbed rooms a fair amount.

 

[billdozier]

alfie how do you pull in disposal and dw 12/3 or two 12/2 in one deep box with sl going up for disposal?

 

[Mule]

Do you pigtail every outlet to a single connection point for trim out?

Im purposely staying out of this, seeing where it goes>>>highly curious

 

[alfiesauce]

alfie how do you pull in disposal and dw 12/3 or two 12/2 in one deep box with sl going up for disposal?

I've done it both ways depending on exsisting circuits. Usually we've done a 14gauge though.

 

[480sparky]

i believe in the 08 code that you are no longer allowed to split the recept and have the bottom one (always hot) count as your required recept for wall space. If using a switched outlet instead of a light, it doesn't cont for the required outlets.

The other half (always hot) covers you.

 

[alfiesauce]

i believe in the 08 code that you are no longer allowed to split the recept and have the bottom one (always hot) count as your required recept for wall space. If using a switched outlet instead of a light, it doesn't cont for the required outlets.

I'd like to see a number for that.
Would a single floor receptacle count?

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Steelerman you are confused..:smile:

 

[wirenut2008]

I split receptacles for 1/2 hots.

 

[quogueelectric]

I often do this as I rarely do a minimum code bare bones job most is custom reno and customers who I give the option to and most go for it.

 

[480sparky]

......Would a single floor receptacle count?

Not if it's switched. 210.52(2) [2008].

 

[Rewire]

I'd like to see a number for that.
Would a single floor receptacle count?

I believe floor recepts must be within 18 inches of wall
to be counted

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Not if it's switched. 210.52(2) [2008].

I believe Alfies point was that steelerman was incorrect in saying that a half switched outlet is not code compliant without an additional outlet.

 

[480sparky]

I believe Alfies point was that steelerman was incorrect in saying that a half switched outlet is not code compliant without an additional outlet.

He asked about a single receptacle. If it's a single recep and it's switched, it does not count as a required receptacle in the 6' spacing requirements.

I believe floor recepts must be within 18 inches of wall
to be counted

Yes. 210.52(A)(3).