Spot the violation in this pool install
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dcspector
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so this was all about 334.12(B)(4)???
donselectric
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i don think the conductors are marked thwn.thhn...ect
are they?
are they?
Ive' never seen NM that has any marking on the insulation.
Buck Parrish
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And the equipment ground is not insulated. In the nm
brantmacga
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Buck Parrish
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I know how it is. You try to be nice. But some times you just have to tell them it all needs to be done over.
Talk about stray voltages and deaths and stuff. You can go to MH news letters and search for pool electrocutions and you will definetly find some. This will give you ammo when you tell them how much it is going to cost. Oh, and always mention safety for small kids.:wink:
Sot the violation in pool install
Sot the violation in pool install
egc not insulated,NM cable in pvc even if conductors are listed for the installation is a violation,because the outer sheath is not.
Sot the violation in pool install
egc not insulated,NM cable in pvc even if conductors are listed for the installation is a violation,because the outer sheath is not.
LarryFine
Master Electrician Electric Contractor Richmond VA
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And without the sheath, the conductors are unidentified.
scwirenut
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where does it read a feeder for pools must have a insulated EG? I thought it was for branch circuit wiring only.
Funny this should come up, just today I looked at a hack pool wiring job. Seems the pool equip was re located, and the light for the pool and the light for the spa were terminated in a 4s bell box, each in a separate PVC. There is a bare #8 (SOLID) coming up out of each PVC into the bell box, terminated to nothing. I don't know if it is the 680.26 bonding wire or the 680.23(B)(2)(b) wire. Being not insulated makes me think it might be the bonding wire, but I have never seen one inside the conduit like that????
175 feet back to main panel, crawl space, basement ? If you mention this I'm sorry I didn't see it. Is that 6/3 with ground? Is it coming out of the crawl/basement right under the panel on the house or is this a separate building? If it's 6/3 w ground and its coming right out of the crawl/basement then I see nothing wrong but if it is a separate building, then it needs a insulated EGC. If it is coming out of the basement/crawl then NM would be Ok until it got outside but for that short distance I would not change wiring methods.
M. D.
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If it is a feeder it requires an insulated EGC and it appears to be a feeder ..
CopperTone
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I wouldn't bother changing wiring methods either in that case of such a short distance - sort of splitting hairs idn't it?
See post 35
brantmacga
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just so we're clear on what this is:
6-3NM w/ ground
175' to main; 100' underground in 1" conduit
feeding a pool panel
6-3NM w/ ground
6-3NM w/ ground
175' to main; 100' underground in 1" conduit
feeding a pool panel
6-3NM w/ ground
JohnJ0906
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At least 3 violations
300.9 Romex in wet location above ground
300.5(B) Romex in wet location underground
680.25(B) Uninsulated EGC
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