Does a ground rod need to be driven in next to the hook up bonded in with the pool loop and then bonded in with the power feed ground comming from the house ?
Does a ground rod need to be driven in next to the hook up bonded in with the pool loop and then bonded in with the power feed ground comming from the house ?
If a pool panel is installed on a post next to the pool equipment, some inspectors consider this a structure and therefore enforce 250.32.
We do not enforce this rule for swimming pool panels when installed on a post next to the equipment.
Any opinions on this?
Marty
Structure. That which is built or constructed.
How is that panel on a post not a "sturcture"?
250.32(A) applys to buildings or structures supplied by a feeder.
So in accordance with that section a grounding electrode system is required at the post with the pool panel.
Chris
OK! Now the follow up question. Who enforces and who installs a ground rod at a pool? No one that I'm aware of in my State. The reason is that a ground rod at a swimming pool may INCREASE stray voltage currents. I use to have a graphic reflecting this, but I misplaced it. Maybe someone has this and will share it with us.
That is my understanding of why a ground rod should be avoided at a swimming pool.
I'm fully aware of a post being a structure, but we conveniently misapply the definition at pools due to the potential hazards.
I would like to here other opinions on this.
OK! Now the follow up question. Who enforces and who installs a ground rod at a pool? No one that I'm aware of in my State. The reason is that a ground rod at a swimming pool may INCREASE stray voltage currents. I use to have a graphic reflecting this, but I misplaced it. Maybe someone has this and will share it with us.
That is my understanding of why a ground rod should be avoided at a swimming pool.
I'm fully aware of a post being a structure, but we conveniently misapply the definition at pools due to the potential hazards.
I would like to here other opinions on this.
Does a ground rod need to be driven in next to the hook up bonded in with the pool loop and then bonded in with the power feed ground comming from the house ?
If a pool panel is installed on a post next to the pool equipment, some inspectors consider this a structure
Marty
By putting a post in the ground you are not building or constructing anything.
There is no clear answer to this however, with the wording as is I agree with Chris. You have created a support. How did you create the support? ---By building a structure.IMHO you are providing support but you are not creating a structure. I respectfully agree to disagree.
IMHO you are providing support but you are not creating a structure. I respectfully agree to disagree.
Seems like everyone here thinks a post is a structure. (I don't considere it to be)
225.32 Location. The disconnecting means shall be installed either inside or outside of the building or structure served or where the conductors pass through the building or structure. The disconnecting means shall be at a readily accessible location nearest the point of entrance of the conductors. For the purposes of this section, the requirements in 230.6 shall be utilized.
Exception No. 3: For towers or poles used as lighting standards, the disconnecting means shall be permitted to be located elsewhere on the premises.
I would consider a sports lighting tower a structure because its usually multiple parts, such as the pole, the balast enclosure, and the light arms. Althoguh the NEC would not.
Bob makes the point I am trying to make.
Also if some consider support a structure than by hangin a panel from a tree I a constructed support. To construct means just that. You ahve to use more than one member to construct anythign. Other wise if you just have a post you have not constructed anythign you have just placed. Construction requires multiple pieces. If I hold a fork in my hand I have not constructed anythign. Its ashame the NEC gives such an elementary 6 word definition.
I would consider a sports lighting tower a structure because its usually multiple parts, such as the pole, the balast enclosure, and the light arms. Althoguh the NEC would not.