Tamper Resistant/Arc Fault and GFCI

[retirede]

Look at the pic above I posted.
Afci required in more areas than bedrooms.

What year NEC is that picture from?

 

[JRW 70]

What year NEC is that picture from?

2008 it seems.

 

[darekelec]

Yes 2008 NEC

 

[brantmacga]

I hear you but I’d think the code would supersede spec.

Anyway, my spec(or drawings) does not indicate anything about using afci at all but on the returned/rejected submittal they said to use them. I’m guessing(before I inquire about the rejection) they are going to cite NEC code.

What you’re looking for is a dual-function receptacle; it has both AFCI & GFCI. I have some that P&S sent me to sample but I’ve never used them.

Send a change-order along with your submittal update.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Alwayslearningelec]

I would ask the contractor to use tamper resistant receptacles either way.
Afci not required by the nec and nyc amendments imho.
Nor gfci protection.
It’s common in nyc for electrical contractors not to be aware of 517.13 A and B so I recommend you follow up on this one.

Your saying that AFCI not required but the pic you posts requires it and it's the 2008 which NYC is following.

 

[infinity]

Your saying that AFCI not required but the pic you posts requires it and it's the 2008 which NYC is following.

Is this in a dwelling unit?

 

[Alwayslearningelec]

Is this in a dwelling unit?

No psychiatric facility.

 

[kwired]

2020 NEC added patient sleeping rooms in nursing homes and limited care facilities to places that need AFCI protection. If you are only on 2008 in this application then AFCI is only required in dwelling units AFAIK.

GFCI protection regardless of what year NEC applies would typically depend on other conditions at the location, areas like bathrooms, near sinks outdoors and such might require GFCI. Just being a psychiatric facility isn't enough information to otherwise dictate the need for GFCI.

 

[infinity]

No psychiatric facility.

So forget the AFCI it is not required.