tamper resistant receptacles where required in dwelling

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where are trr required in a dweell1ng??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
 
see 406.12.

Basically all receptacles covered by 210.52 need to beTR receptacles.

exception says if over 5.5 feet above floor - seems redundant to have that exception though as one over 5.5feet isn't covered by 210.52 anyway.
 
kwired said:
Might make some difference I guess. What I was talking about at was from 2017.

Since TR was introduced many just put them everywhere as there normally isn't many permitted to not be TR.
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I agree. I was thinking 08 may have had some room descriptions. Also like you said the ceiling ones were not required. But we just put them everywhere even in detached garages.
 
Buck Parrish said:
I agree. I was thinking 08 may have had some room descriptions. Also like you said the ceiling ones were not required. But we just put them everywhere even in detached garages.
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Looking at 2008, it just mentions areas covered by 210.52. No exceptions in that edition. Technically a receptacle over 5.5 above floor is not a 210.52 outlet and shouldn't been required to be TR anyway.
 
kwired said:
Looking at 2008, it just mentions areas covered by 210.52. No exceptions in that edition. Technically a receptacle over 5.5 above floor is not a 210.52 outlet and shouldn't been required to be TR anyway.
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I think you answered the OP's question with that.
 
My local wholesale houses only stock TR. If you want non TR its a special order
However, your big box store will have ample stock of non-TR.
Keep in mind if you replace a receptacle in a location that is required to be TR,WR, GFCI or AFCI, the replacement is required to TR,WR, GFCI or AFCI
 
tom baker said:
Keep in mind if you replace a receptacle in a location that is required to be TR,WR, GFCI or AFCI, the replacement is required to TR,WR, GFCI or AFCI
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kwired said:
see 406.12.

Basically all receptacles covered by 210.52 need to beTR receptacles.

exception says if over 5.5 feet above floor - seems redundant to have that exception though as one over 5.5feet isn't covered by 210.52 anyway.
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At a continuing ed class about 5 years ago inspector quoted that TR receptacles in homes were not needed for receptacles over 7' off floor so appears only ceiling mounted garage door opener receptacles and maybe some wall clock receptacles would be exempt. Have not seen a clock receptacle installed in about 40 years. My sparky dad installed one in our house back in the late 50's and I got to help. Yep held the flashlight during the day time. My 96 year mom still has a clock plugged into my first helper job.
 
garbo said:
At a continuing ed class about 5 years ago inspector quoted that TR receptacles in homes were not needed for receptacles over 7' off floor so appears only ceiling mounted garage door opener receptacles and maybe some wall clock receptacles would be exempt. Have not seen a clock receptacle installed in about 40 years. My sparky dad installed one in our house back in the late 50's and I got to help. Yep held the flashlight during the day time. My 96 year mom still has a clock plugged into my first helper job.
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7 feet maybe a local amendment.?

NEC says 5.5 feet.

Even in first year this was in NEC (2008) it simply said ones that 210.52 applied to, if you dig deeper into 210.52 it doesn't apply to outlets over 5.5 feet high. That leaves limited amount in most homes that don't have to be TR. Some common places are possibly receptacle mounted over 5.5 high for a wall mounted television, range hood, microwave, outdoor (or even indoor) receptacles mounted high for holiday lighting and such, any ceiling receptacles for any purpose (except maybe some low ceilings/low portions of ceilings in attics or similar)
 
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ptonsparky said:
Not worth the effort to omit any TRs in a residence. IMO.
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Generally no. Only going to be maybe 3 to 5 total you can omit in many homes. Especially it if you can't trust your employees to remember to get them in the right spot and an inspector ends up catching it.
 
ptonsparky said:
Not worth the effort to omit any TRs in a residence. IMO.
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Agreed, the time you spend figuring out what goes where, you already spent your savings per outlet. The amount in a residence that would not be TR is not that much at all, so in my mind non-TR outlets are a thing of the past.


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