Well the lockouts are silly anyway for most brands like eatons so in all honesty it won't make any difference to someone who knows not to mess with it live.
Have you had anyone require the lockout?
Yes but spokane has an LNI guy who is uncooperative and likes to fail left and right and then a few normal guys. He's the only one who calls it.
Why would you think a breaker lock would be required without the use of a disconnect here?? 625.43 is very clear on when a disconnecting means is required within sight of a hardwired evse or a breaker lock . And it’s only if the circuit is larger than 60 amps or 150 volts or more to ground
Not according to 625.43. A disconnect within sight of the evse or a breaker lock is only required for a hardwired evse if over 60 amps or 150 volts or more to ground . Hardwired evse 60 amps or less are not required to have a disconnect within sight
Yep your right. I still prefer the disconnect
If that’s your choice do you , I read your comment as saying it was required that’s all
I thought it was I just checked again though and it is the 60a and up only. Which is nice to know.
It’s not 60 and up it’s more than 60 or 150 volts or more to ground . The standard 240 volt single phase 60 amp level 2 hardwired station will never require a disconnect within sight of the unit According to 625.43.
This screenshot is 625.43 2023 nec
Disconnects can come in handy. I don't really care about having a means of disconnect for an EVSE, but they are handy just as a splice or transition point. May allow you to run aluminum conductors for lesser cost, then transition to copper. A disconnect is often cheaper than a box and splicers. I have used them several times for this purpose.
I’ve used them as a point to transition From AL to cu conductors more than once as well on longer runs if not to have a negative effect on the aesthetics of the install . But I also know it’s not a requirement, I’m choosing to do it of my own accord not to satisfy the code. We are Tesla certified installers so I wire no less than 2-3 wall connectors every week , and I haven’t used anything but copper for at least 2 years and anytime I need to changeover from a cable assembly to conduit i feel using a metal 4 11/16” box is cleaner and less obvious than any disconnect . But over the last couple weeks I’ve hardwired two 80 amp evse (prime com tech) that required a 100 amp circuits per 625.41 so i had to provide a disconnect or a lockable breaker in accordance with 625.43
While article 314 does not apply to an EVSE enclosure as its listed equipment I would check the manufacturers instructions. But in the absence of clear instructions I'd go by 314.3 as other UL standards for equipment pretty much say the same thing for OEM's;
