mbrooke
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Sorry, mbrooke, but don_resqcapt19 is correct.
The recognition of arc signatures is solely the job of the electronics- the magnetic trip doesn't recognize arc signatures-it only reacts to current.
Who says you need wave analysis to stop arcing? Who said current alone can't do it?
And I think you may have misinterpreted him- he wasn't claiming that you need a smart device to detect arc signatures; he was saying that detection of arc signatures is only possible because of the electronics- what else in the afci detects "arc signatures"? Nothing. Note the quotations around those few words in his posts.
If you are directly looking at peaks/troughs/ripples in a sign wave then yes, you need electronics. But the biggest kicker is that arcs can be mitigated without a single transistor
Here is a quote from the 2014 ROP starting at page 139:
The UL report states “breakers can be effective at mitigating arcing faults,
provided the available fault current can be guaranteed to exceed the magnetic
trip level of the circuit breaker by a factor of 1.25.”
https://www.nfpa.org/Assets/files/AboutTheCodes/70/70-A2013-ROP.pdf
The branch feeder AFCIs was supposed to be nothing more then a series coil but the idea was scrapped because a 75 amp mag pickup would blow on some motors.