electrofelon
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I HATE low outside outlets, having to fiddle with in use or flap covers
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- Thread starter Seven-Delta-FortyOne
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I HATE low outside outlets, having to fiddle with in use or flap covers
hbiss
EC, Westchester, New York NEC: 2014
- Location
- Hawthorne, New York NEC: 2014
- Occupation
- EC
Receptacles at 48" are a European thing. IMHO ugly because who wants to see cords hanging down... unless it's a workshop or there is another reason for them to be at that height.
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Birken Vogt
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- Grass Valley, Ca
My house has been changed around and many receptacles left at counter height. Guess which ones get used for vacuuming etc.?
2700 is a little off for me. I bought some and quickly changed them out.People don't actually like 2700k, they just think they do
I tend to stay somewhere between 30k and 40k with my lighting.
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- Licensed Electrician
I tell people the all the time, "You spent your whole life thinking that orange glow is what light looks like. Get outside more often and see what color your clothes really are".People don't actually like 2700k, they just think they do
Seven-Delta-FortyOne
Goin’ Down In Flames........
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- Humboldt
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- EC and GC
Eddie702
Licensed Electrician
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- Western Massachusetts
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- Electrician
I like switches at 42" instead of 48" Receptacle heights only matter when you plug or unplug. Put the receptacles as high as you want you still have to bend over to pick up the cord
hbiss
EC, Westchester, New York NEC: 2014
- Location
- Hawthorne, New York NEC: 2014
- Occupation
- EC
Birken Vogt
Senior Member
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- Grass Valley, Ca
If I want outside color light I will go outside.
Inside light and outside light are not the same thing for the same purposes.
My mom does textiles and beads. She hunts up special lighting to make her work look natural.
When I am trying to go to read a book and go to bed, I do not need that same light color.
Many are 300mn (1ft) for local lamps and televisions. Work tops are usually 1200mm (4ft)
That's called wall acne.
qcroanoke
Sometimes I don't know if I'm the boxer or the bag
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- Roanoke, VA.
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- Sorta retired........
The one thing I will put up high is a twist lock generator inlet. Most of the time it's bad weather and who wants to get down on hands and knees to try to line them up.
- Occupation
- Licensed Electrician
The older I get the more I like good lighting. We have come a long way from the orange glow of an Edison style bulb and I am thankful for it. And think about that kid with acne through no fault of his own, he has less to be picked on about in world free of 2000k lighting.
hillbilly1
Senior Member
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- North Georgia mountains
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- Owner/electrical contractor
I did a kitchen remodel years ago where I used mid range LED’s, it lit the kitchen up real well, cabinets and countertops color matched well, but the homeowner came in and said she wanted the orange color. I changed them out, looked like crap, but she got what she wanted! LOL!
winnie
Senior Member
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- Springfield, MA, USA
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- Electric motor research
I really like this concept.
Install receptacles for things that stay plugged in long term at 'normal' height (18" ish), but have receptacles by the door for things that are only temporary, such as vacuum cleaners and the like.
A shelf level receptacle (with matching shelf) for device charging is also nice to have.
kwired
Electron manager
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- NE Nebraska
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- EC
electrofelon
Senior Member
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- Cherry Valley NY, Seattle, WA
That's what I meant when I said people only think they like 2700k. I mean that half jokingly, I mean you like what you like, but I think there is a lot of conditioning and people just assume that is what you use in a house. I mean that is what this thread is about is people doing things just because that's the way it's typically done and we are used to it
ptonsparky
Tom
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- EC - retired
I liked the 2700 until my 70s and then 3000s came out
Seven-Delta-FortyOne
Goin’ Down In Flames........
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- Humboldt
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- EC and GC
My personal take on lighting:
I prefer houses with lots of natural light so electric lighting is not needed much at all during the day.
If you think of historically traditional evening/nighttime lighting, it was firelight. For me, at night the amber/yellow color is much easier on the eyes. I think daylight is great for daytime, but a softer light at night is better.
And those 5k lights just straight up hurt my eyes.
I prefer houses with lots of natural light so electric lighting is not needed much at all during the day.
If you think of historically traditional evening/nighttime lighting, it was firelight. For me, at night the amber/yellow color is much easier on the eyes. I think daylight is great for daytime, but a softer light at night is better.
And those 5k lights just straight up hurt my eyes.
ggunn
PE (Electrical), NABCEP certified
- Location
- Austin, TX, USA
- Occupation
- Consulting Electrical Engineer - Photovoltaic Systems
"Soft white" is 3000K, and it is what I prefer for household lighting, and I really do, I do not just think I do. When LED household lighting first became available it was all blueish, and I hated it.
I don't know what temperature stadium LED lighting is, but in the LSU stadium for night games their purple jerseys look blue on TV. For day games they look like the purple that they really are.