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gadfly56

Senior Member
Location
New Jersey
Occupation
Professional Engineer, Fire & Life Safety
It seems to me that there should be a deadline for plan permitting; if the AHJ does not provide a judgement within X number of business days, the permit is automatically issued. :D
No, in NJ it is considered automatically denied.
 

goldstar

Senior Member
Location
New Jersey
Occupation
Electrical Contractor
We are hearing about sporadic delays in permitting and inspections around here. My most recent project was no problem at all, but a friend in the next town over has been waiting a month. His is a solar installation and the federal tax break changes after Dec 31, so the end user is in a meltdown panic.
In a weird kind of way I can understand the delay in that case. I'm sure there are plans and specs submitted for a solar installationm and the need for a plan review. However, how difficult is coming up with a cost for an 200 amp electrical service upgrade permit ??? A township must do dozens a month. Does one vary from another that much in terms of $$ ?
 

kec

Member
Location
CT
Occupation
Electrical Contractor
Here's what I would do, if you are a hold a valid license in the state and are confident you will not blown anything up, then do the job.
after 2 days from permit issue, call for inspection. I doubt the inspector is lurking to see if you did the job. If so tell them the meter jaws were burnt. Seems like a delay in paper work.
I know I'm going to here it about this.☹️
 

ggunn

PE (Electrical), NABCEP certified
Location
Austin, TX, USA
Occupation
Electrical Engineer - Photovoltaic Systems
We are hearing about sporadic delays in permitting and inspections around here. My most recent project was no problem at all, but a friend in the next town over has been waiting a month. His is a solar installation and the federal tax break changes after Dec 31, so the end user is in a meltdown panic.
I am not a tax expert, but it may be that eligibility for the ITC depends on when the system is paid for, not when it is built. We had a customer a couple of years ago who paid for a PV system before his house was built so that he could get the tax credit before the ITC changed. I don't know if it worked for him, though.
 

gadfly56

Senior Member
Location
New Jersey
Occupation
Professional Engineer, Fire & Life Safety
You understood it was a joke, right? Just checking.
I didn't know if it was wishful thinking or if some parts of TX actually do that. There are 50 states, and maybe some of them issue by default. The OP is in NJ, and NJ denies by default.
 

goldstar

Senior Member
Location
New Jersey
Occupation
Electrical Contractor
I didn't know if it was wishful thinking or if some parts of TX actually do that. There are 50 states, and maybe some of them issue by default. The OP is in NJ, and NJ denies by default.
Just an update, after 22 days I finally got a phone call that my permit app was ready. This is a sad commentary for this municipality.
 

gadfly56

Senior Member
Location
New Jersey
Occupation
Professional Engineer, Fire & Life Safety
Just an update, after 22 days I finally got a phone call that my permit app was ready. This is a sad commentary for this municipality.
Although not strictly speaking "my" permit, I am part of a package that first got lost, and then was supposed to be "expedited" by the town on re-submission. I think we will be at 15 business days on the re-submission at the end of this week.
 

Fred B

Senior Member
Location
Upstate, NY
Occupation
Electrician
Don't think 22 days is bad. Got one it'll likely be next spring before getting all the approvals, by time we get the variances, planning board, DEC and FEMA approvals. That is just to put in a shore power pedestal. Variance was 2 and a half months to get.
 

gadfly56

Senior Member
Location
New Jersey
Occupation
Professional Engineer, Fire & Life Safety
Although not strictly speaking "my" permit, I am part of a package that first got lost, and then was supposed to be "expedited" by the town on re-submission. I think we will be at 15 business days on the re-submission at the end of this week.
So, I double checked the date. Resubmission was made on 10-21, so we are officially at 23 business days, or 21 if you pull out Columbus Day and Veterans Day. So, don't be in a hurry if you're doing work in Bogota, NJ.
 

Open Neutral

Senior Member
Location
Inside the Beltway
Occupation
Engineer
The clerk told me that they are running 20 BUSINESS DAYS for approvals. I mentioned that this was for an electrical service upgrade (pretty basic thing I would guess). She said it didn't matter - it's 20 business days - 20 business days is 4 weeks, last time I checked.

Bainbridge Island, WA was 2+ months behind this spring and summer on any permit. It drove the GC I work with out there to the edge of tears. They closed the office for a month, to work on the backlog....
 
I feel all your pain. I am in a Indianapolis. My day job is working as an ordinary hand mostly factory machinery moves. I work for an EC and I don’t know if the slowdown in permitting effects them. I also have a license and on rare occasions I will do a residential service change on my own. I went to get a permit a couple days ago. My first one this year. When I got online there was a notice that permits were averaging 21 days. I was shocked! I was hoping that a simple meter base and service mast change would be quick turnaround(like the original poster). My customer was feeling a sense of urgency because she was trying to sell the house and needed more overhead clearance. I submitted online at night and got an immediate computer generated receipt. Late the next morning I got an email approval pending payment. I paid my fee online and got an immediate email with a printable permit I can’t complain.


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infinity

Moderator
Staff member
Location
New Jersey
Occupation
Journeyman Electrician
Don't think 22 days is bad. Got one it'll likely be next spring before getting all the approvals, by time we get the variances, planning board, DEC and FEMA approvals. That is just to put in a shore power pedestal. Variance was 2 and a half months to get.
I don't think that you can compare the variance process to getting a permit for a service upgrade. 22 days for a simple electrical permit that requires zero plan review is ridiculous.
 

goldstar

Senior Member
Location
New Jersey
Occupation
Electrical Contractor
I submitted online at night and got an immediate computer generated receipt. Late the next morning I got an email approval pending payment. I paid my fee online and got an immediate email with a printable permit I can’t complain.
Consider yourself lucky. Go buy a lottery ticket. :cool:
 

Dennis Alwon

Moderator
Staff member
Location
Chapel Hill, NC
Occupation
Retired Electrical Contractor
Consider yourself lucky. Go buy a lottery ticket. :cool:

I feel for you and it seems such an archaic system. We file for a permit online and we get an email within hours, in some cases, with the permit approval.

Some areas are worse than others but almost all handle the permit process in a day.
 
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