This just looks wrong...

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stickboy1375 said:
Why do we even use the NEC if an installation is good in one state but yet not another? Your state accepted the 2005 nec correct? They why would that installation not pass?

and what state are You referring to?.....DC is still under the frigin 96? I am tested to 05 and You think that SER connector is a DRY location Damp ain't gonna happen ? Also, The SE must be protected 230.50? So what are You sayin ?
 
dcspector said:
The SE must be protected 230.50?

In this area we do not automatically assume a section of SE on the side of a home is subject to damage.

Other areas do.

Different strokes for different folks. :smile:
 
dcspector said:
and what state are You referring to?.....DC is still under the frigin 96? I am tested to 05 and You think that SER connector is a DRY location Damp ain't gonna happen ? Also, The SE must be protected 230.50? So what are You sayin ?

230.50 Protection of Open Conductors and Cables Against Damage ? Above Ground.
Service-entrance conductors installed above ground shall be protected against physical damage as specified in 230.50(A) or (B).
(A) Service Cables. Service cables, where subject to physical damage, shall be protected by any of the following:
(1) Rigid metal conduit
(2) Intermediate metal conduit
(3) Schedule 80 rigid nonmetallic conduit
(4) Electrical metallic tubing
(5) Other approved means


If the cable is not subject to damage then where is the violation?
 
dcspector said:
and what state are You referring to?.....DC is still under the frigin 96? I am tested to 05 and You think that SER connector is a DRY location Damp ain't gonna happen ? Also, The SE must be protected 230.50? So what are You sayin ?

I don't know, I know thats how I do alot of installs though...:D IMO, the only reason a SER connector is listed as a dry connector is so some knucklehead doesn't install it where water will enter the connector...
 
dcspector said:
Trevor......it is subject to physical damage. What are the limitations of damage on an exposed SER?...not much..IMHO

How do you feel about SEU on the outside of a house? Still feel every residental service requires to be installed in a raceway?
 
dcspector said:
Trevor......it is subject to physical damage. What are the limitations of damage on an exposed SER?...not much..IMHO

Before we go to far let me say this.

It is an interpretation, I will not try to tell you your area interrupts it wrong and ask for you not to say this area interrupts it wrong.

Trevor sees this in NJ, Stick is from CT, I work in MA, RI and CT.
 
Here is a very typical multifamily house service around here.

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Got interior pics? I'm curious on how that 6th can receives its line side conductors. I know those Milbank ganged meter cans have extra tapped holes in the buss bars on the line side. Just wondering if they bolted mechanical lugs on those buss bars or what. (or if that's even permitted) Looks like someone didn't want to spring for a 6 gang 200 amp can, when all they needed was 5-100's and 1-200
 
iwire said:
Here is a very typical multifamily house service around here.

Dennis8.jpg

Hey Iwire, I know this is OT, but how do you add that House Bypass? Is there a spot for the Lugs to be added? I always wondered. I only did a 3 Family w/bypass(4 meters total) built in or Modular Style for bigger. Just wondering.

Tom

So I guess we can't use SE anywhere, if it's all subject to physical damage.

MD was thinking the same as myself. We do need a bypass on the house panel here though, hence the extra socket.
 
mdshunk said:
Got interior pics?

No.

I but I did see inside.


I'm curious on how that 6th can receives its line side conductors.......Just wondering if they bolted mechanical lugs on those buss bars or what.

Yes lugs bolted on.

(or if that's even permitted)

It was approved, I see no problem if you keep the rating of the bus in mind along with the loading.


Looks like someone didn't want to spring for a 6 gang 200 amp can, when all they needed was 5-100's and 1-200


Your good. :)

The power company requires a 200 amp socket for the public meter.

For the record it was not me, it was one of my co-workers legal side jobs. :)
 
So now you know how many home services I do.

So it's not that my buddy needed a 200 amp socket, he needed a bypass version.
 
iwire said:
So it's not that my buddy needed a 200 amp socket, he needed a bypass version.
Ah.. I see. 'Round my parts, most of the POCOs want at least horn bypass for everything, so the supply houses don't even stock meter cans without horn or lever bypass provisions.
 
I don't think any of the local POCOs accept horn bypass, all seem to want lever.

I never heard of a horn bypass until someone said it on a forum.
 
iwire said:
I don't think any of the local POCOs accept horn bypass, all seem to want lever.

I never heard of a horn bypass until someone said it on a forum.


I agree! They only require it(lever) for Public Meters and Commercial.


Tom
 
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