This just looks wrong...

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Davis9 said:
Has anyone else used the newer style Se Cable? I used some today on a 200A service change and it kicked my b*tt! It was easily twice as thick as the last stuff I used. Needless to say the cold weather didn't help. Seemed like it would hold up much better to the weather.

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Ahhh... you got ahold of some of that neoprene jacketed stuff. It's available to me, but at a substantial upcharge. Don't use it, myself. It was installed quite a bit in the 60/70's around me. It lasts forever.
 
georgestolz said:
Where are you at, roughly (or exactly, short of an actual address.) :)
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Out in the woods in the North Georgia mountains.
Un-incorporated (rural) area near the Tennessee line.
8th generation "Hillbilly".
 
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Well that may be ok in other areas of the country but that type of instalation would never pass here in the Chicagoland area. Services here have to be in IMC or Ridge pipe no cables. Secondly I did not see were the ground wire going to earth.which should also be in a pipe.
 
DRMOELLE said:
Well that may be ok in other areas of the country but that type of instalation would never pass here in the Chicagoland area. Services here have to be in IMC or Ridge pipe no cables. Secondly I did not see were the ground wire going to earth.which should also be in a pipe.
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If you run that ground in pipe, if it's not pvc, you better be sure to have a bonding bushings on it. I prefer to ground out of the panel instead of the meter can anyway, it makes for a much cleaner installation.
 
WA state also mandates IMC, RGS or PVC for services, no SE cable is allowed. EMT cannot be used for unfused conductors inside building lines. When I first saw SE cable being used in a trip I took to VA, I was blown away. It seemed odd that they actually ran cable exposed down the outside of a house. Still does seem odd to me, probably because I'm not used to seeing it.

As for the picture in the OP, why not run out the back of the meter straight into the wall and then into the service panel? That way the SE cable isn't exposed to the outside. That makes the most sense to me.
 
paul said:
WA state also mandates IMC, RGS or PVC for services, no SE cable is allowed. EMT cannot be used for unfused conductors inside building lines. When I first saw SE cable being used in a trip I took to VA, I was blown away. It seemed odd that they actually ran cable exposed down the outside of a house. Still does seem odd to me, probably because I'm not used to seeing it.

As for the picture in the OP, why not run out the back of the meter straight into the wall and then into the service panel? That way the SE cable isn't exposed to the outside. That makes the most sense to me.
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Lot of extra work coming out the back... besides... looks fine the way it is now...
 
I find it amazing that we all work under the rules included in the NEC, yet there are such differences in the installation procedures based on your location in the country. Working here in Massachusetts and having to work under the Mass Electrical Code, I always assumed that we had some of the strictest requirements in the country, but from the information revealed in this thread it seems that it is not always the case. Never having worked anywhere other than the Northeast, I find this thread to be very interesting and informative.
 
stickboy1375 said:
Besides that, some POCO's will not allow GEC in the meter can...
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I wish we could: it's already outside, and there's a lug in the can. :roll:

Besides, isn't that the best place for lightning protection - before it comes into the house?
 
LarryFine said:
I wish we could: it's already outside, and there's a lug in the can. :roll:

Besides, isn't that the best place for lightning protection - before it comes into the house?
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I used to think that also, it definitely would be easier, but lighting can come from anywhere, it could follow a piece of UF coming out of the house opposite side of the meter, so I don't think it's the so called "best" place... IMO...
 
LarryFine said:
I wish we could: it's already outside, and there's a lug in the can. :roll:

Besides, isn't that the best place for lightning protection - before it comes into the house?
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Our POCO's don't want any such thing in with their meters. Fortunately, all four in our area abide by the same rules on this.
 
paul said:
Our POCO's don't want any such thing in with their meters. Fortunately, all four in our area abide by the same rules on this.
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The meter seal effectively renders the connection inaccessible. Unfortunately, my localities also agree.
 
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