twisted bare grounds

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growler said:
It took awhile but I finally learned to get those crimp splices back off if I need to. It's not fast and it's not easy but it can be done with a sharp set of tin snips. :grin:
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That's nothing. I can get them off and put them back on again. :cool:
 
tdjs said:
How many of you twist your bare ground wires together in the outlet boxes? How many of you use red,yellow and greenies wire nuts in residential wiring?
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I am a twister and use both mostly greenies and ground crimps resi. Commercial I use mostly reds and ground tails (Boss thinks you are trunkslamming if you buy greenies in comercial) to the box try to use self grounding devices where I can. I have seen more contractors using wagos more often and I am not as against them as I was with the first generation wagos. The newer ones seem to make a solid splice.
 
I use the crimps because it makes me feel good. I usually run one long ground through the crimp to use on all the devices. I know you could do that with a greenie but I like the way the crip can be tucked away as if its not even there. I know I am splitting hairs.... I do use an approved crimper. I dont ven liek to see them smashed on, then it looks non professional. JMHO.
 
It was a common practice in the past, at least in this area, to just twist a couple of inches of the EGCs together and not use any type of connector. Often one was left long for the connection to the device. Some areas still accept this practice.
 
Geez, that's what I used to do to all the grounds in a panel - then lump them all under one lug. In the early 80's there was none of this fancy schmantzy "ground bar" stuff.
 
e57 said:
So what's wrong with a simple wire nut? :-?:rolleyes:
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They didn't really see a reason for it, and code rule aside, I would be willing to bet that there is no real difference in the electrical quality of the twisted only connection and one with a wire nut or crimp.
 
I've been taught to twist and use either a buchanan or tan wire nut (depending on supplies).

I've always felt that the twist helps minimize stray uninsulated wires in a box. Shouldn't be an issue, but if a HO pulls it apart down the road...

:confused: Theres an approved crimper for buchs???;)
 
I leave all wires about 1 foot long hanging out of box then, I take the bare grounds and bend like a hand crank starter for an old car and twist 3 or 4 rounds. After the twisting, I bend one out of the way and cut the rest off then wire nut them all with the pigtail hanging out for the device.
 
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