using the stabs wirenuts

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I dont really know what there called but they come with different amounts of holes in them and you use them instead of wirenuts. you dont have to twist. I have all my guys use them in light fixtures. its alot quicker. i wonder if they are trying to get those labled for the fixture disconnect. The problem is i was speaking with my supply house guy and he said they aren't popular at all and they may stop carrying them. does anyone here find them usefull?
 
Wago is one manufacrurer. Some call them Wall Nuts. They come with different number of

holes for different applications. They are more expensive than Ideal tan wirenuts however.

Like most everything they have there place, example: When replacing devices in old work

with short wires Wall Nuts can be a lifesaver. For everday use I would use tans or reds.
 
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i use them for most of my #14,#12 connections.it's easier to fold the wires back in a j box and they're handi if you need to add a wire later(if the box has enough volume)they're also good for feeding multiple devices in a multi gang box from one circuit
 
They are a time saver. I have never had any trouble with them. We have used them for over 5 years with good luck. Everyone around here uses them.
 
tyha said:
I dont really know what there called but they come with different amounts of holes in them and you use them instead of wirenuts.
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Wago. Wago's are German made and expensive.

tyha said:
i wonder if they are trying to get those labled for the fixture disconnect.
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The fixture disconnects I've seen are from Ideal and they are stab-in. I don't know if Wago has a two-piece product.

tyha said:
does anyone here find them usefull?
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I do not use Wago's. I use Ideal orange wirenuts for ballasts replacement and Ideal red wire nuts for everything else (that a red wire nut is listed for.)
 
tyha said:
I dont really know what there called but they come with different amounts of holes in them and you use them instead of wirenuts. you dont have to twist. I have all my guys use them in light fixtures.
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What kind of fixtures are you talking about? Most fixtures I install have stranded wire that would be difficult to stab in there...unless I just never tried it and it's actually easier than I expect.
 
I did not trust these for a long time but grudgingly used them with some can lights that had them in the factory wiring. I have come to like them. I met an Ideal rep & asked how they had made this product work well, when device mfr's have failed to make it reliable. Told him my experiences with stabbing. He agreed, devices with it are not good. But said Ideal kept testing & working on this & got it perfected before putting on the market.
 
I decided to give em a try after Mike Holt talked about them favorable on one of his DVDs. I love em. I've been buying them online at a good savings. I use Wago brand. The eight hole green ground ones are especially nice.
 
jeremysterling said:
Wago. Wago's are German made and expensive.
The fixture disconnects I've seen are from Ideal and they are stab-in. I don't know if Wago has a two-piece product.
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wago does make a ballast disconnect.

i only use wago wall nuts for this type of termination.
for what they work on, nothing i've found is better.
i love em.

wago also makes a lever action release nut that is very expensive,
and works very well. you can remove and replace wires.

http://www.wago.us/2631.htm
 
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The Wago lever nuts seem better suited for stranded wires, but supposedly the push nuts will work with stranded as well as solid or ferruled wires.

I agree they are more expensive than an average wire nut in either variety.

The lever nuts are about a quarter each in 2 pole and accomodate a much wider range of sizes than a typical wire nut does. The 3 and 5 pole units accomdate the same range of wires but cost more.

4 pole push nuts are only about 12 cents each, and accomodate upto #12. Even if the wire nuts were free, the labor savings in using these would probably make them economical.
 
George Stolz said:
No, I've tried it and they don't work with stranded fixture wire.
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Probably wouldn't work in all instances, but you can tin the stranded wire and use the push-in connector. I've worked with these type connectors for years on French made machines and that's what I used to do. I had Wagos before they existed and didn't know it.:)
 
Little Bill said:
Probably wouldn't work in all instances, but you can tin the stranded wire and use the push-in connector. I've worked with these type connectors for years on French made machines and that's what I used to do. I had Wagos before they existed and didn't know it.:)
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The problem with tinning is that solder melts at a much lower temp than copper, and it also oxidizes a bit faster.

I'll bet if you look at the listing it says CU or CU/AL only. That means no solder.
 
K8MHZ said:
The problem with tinning is that solder melts at a much lower temp than copper, and it also oxidizes a bit faster.

I'll bet if you look at the listing it says CU or CU/AL only. That means no solder.
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I see: Can'tUseAnyLead:lol:

The machines I had already had the tinned wires. That's where I got the idea. Never thought of a listing problem there, but that might be a concern with the Wago/Ideal.
 
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