Utility jurisdiction limit: Meter or Service disconnect?
- Thread starter anndee4444
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- Simi Valley, CA
Sorry my bad, 909-548-7038
anndee4444
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- California
Looks like Gary's number has changed: (909) 548-7176
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- Simi Valley, CA
Thanks. That's why it good to get a new card from people from time to time, even if you already have one. Let me know if he's of any help. I'd like to hear the answer too, even though I don't deal with DWP.
fmtjfw
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- Fairmont, WV, USA
Service point can be basically anywhere
Service point can be basically anywhere
We have a 12.47KV 3-Ph service. The order of items are in following order:
0: POCO side
1: service point
2: air switch
3: fuses
4: metering PTs and CTs
5: a line leading to our pole pigs and pad transformers with associated air switches and cutouts.
Strangest layout I've ever seen for a service point.
Service point can be basically anywhere
We have a 12.47KV 3-Ph service. The order of items are in following order:
0: POCO side
1: service point
2: air switch
3: fuses
4: metering PTs and CTs
5: a line leading to our pole pigs and pad transformers with associated air switches and cutouts.
Strangest layout I've ever seen for a service point.
kwired
Electron manager
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- NE Nebraska
Why is that much different than some low volt services?
0: POCO side
1:service point
2:service raceway
3: meter disconnect
4: self contained meter & socket
5: customer raceway/cable and/or service disconnect
Everything on customer side of service point is customer owned and their responsibility to maintain, with exception that any metering equipment within the meter socket or CT cabinet is POCO controlled and likely is POCO owned.
anndee4444
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- California
I left Gary a message, and just got a call back from someone else (didn't catch his name). SCE's requirements are just as expected; as long as the main breaker is correctly sized, they have no issue what the panel is rated for (when the meter in in a separate panel from the service disconnect).
I have not made any headway with LADWP, but have figured out a work around: install a correctly sized (according to them) service disconnect and then the load center can be whatever size we want (like 200A). This works wonderfully for our backfeed, while still giving them what they want. :thumbsup:
fmtjfw
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- Fairmont, WV, USA
Because
2 and 3 are the true/legal service disconnect, not exclusively the "meter disconnect".
[We treat the secondaries of transformers as thought they were "service entrances" because they have the same characteristics as a POCO distribution transformer secondary (no overcurrent protection until building main CB, and very high available fault currents.]
kwired
Electron manager
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- NE Nebraska
For some reason I never considered the overcurrent protection - even though it was on the list
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