wago here, wago there....

[360Youth]

I like to use wagos for a few things. Mostly for splices within a panel box or connections in strip receptacles (they take up less room than a wire twist and a nut). Outside of the cost factor, I am not sure I am up to using them in large quantities spread out throughout a circuit. If there is a problem I do not want to have to check every wago in every box for the one wire that slipped out. Also, when you inevitably have to add or remove something from an outlet box they are more laborsome to do so than a good 'ole wirenut.

I have never seen a halo can with wagos that has all the wires seated properly.

I really like the wagos in recessed lighting. It cuts time in half, at least, but you do have to watch them. I have more problems with the factory connection than the field. But so far they are worth what few call backs I have found.

 

[wirebender]

...... I have more problems with the factory connection than the field. .........

I agree and I always it a point to remind co-workers to check the factory connection.

 

[wawireguy]

Like someone said they are great when you have a lot of wires to bundle together such as multiple grounds. In the case of using them for grounds like that they just need to be able to clear the occasional fault and not withstand continuous load. I like them for that application. And when you have a lot of neutrals to tie together a wago can really help for that, such as in a switch box with multiple switches and lights.

 

[iaov]

Turn off the power

Here here!! And by the way nice picture Bob!

 

[iaov]

Like someone said they are great when you have a lot of wires to bundle together such as multiple grounds. In the case of using them for grounds like that they just need to be able to clear the occasional fault and not withstand continuous load. I like them for that application. And when you have a lot of neutrals to tie together a wago can really help for that, such as in a switch box with multiple switches and lights.

I've been using them for grounds also with the same thinking about the occasional ground fault. I did put some in some garage lights over a year ago as a test. None of those connections have failed yet. They are all with #14 solid conductors. None of these circuits are being loaded with more than 4-6 amps tho.

 

[ktever]

Master Electrician

Master Electrician

You guys are all over the place with subject matter, I think the original post was to bring attention to a new technology, and improvements made on an old connection. I have been using Wagos in commercial, and residential for a little over 3 years now, and have found them to be extremely valuable as far as time, and installed reliability are concerned. They work well in an existing application where you fiind wires are cut short in an existing box, and you need to pigtail the wire, no fumbling around trying to get a wire nut on a short wire, in a crowded box. New installations are a breeze in boxes with multiple wires involved, especially GFCI outlets, and make up of light boxes above ceilings. Folding wires back into a box is much easier with the wires in a straight line, and not twisted together. Everyone with doubts should at least request a sample, and give them a try. Thanks for your time. Ken T.

 

[jimmyglen]

the only experience I have had bed with them is someone used them in plugmold in a tight tight space

the lady plugs her toaster into the plugmold and in less than a year the wago burned up

but recess cans and that - hard to beat

 

[Vertex]

I never wrap tape around receptacles. Then again, I am an electrician, not a handyman.

 

[MGordon]

Wago's are good but can be bad

Wago's are good but can be bad

I was always trained with wire nuts. When I transferred from Residential to Commercial Electric I was introduced to the Wago. They save time but if you don't make sure they are seated right they will fail. I always give a tug test when I use them just to make sure they are gripping good. And I'm sorry but if you can't look at the wago and see that how big or small they are then you shouldn't be in the trade. 1/2" is a pretty good gauge when you strip the wire to put in the wago

 

[steelersman]

They save time but if you don't make sure they are seated right they will fail. I always give a tug test when I use them just to make sure they are gripping good. And I'm sorry but if you can't look at the wago and see that how big or small they are then you shouldn't be in the trade.

What do you mean by looking at them to see how big or small they are? Why do you need to see how big or small they are? I don't have any experience with them other than the ones from the factory that come with the halo cans (orange wagos) but I don't see where this comes into play.

 

[LarryFine]

I was always trained with wire nuts.

That's funny; I don't remember seeing you there.

1/2" is a pretty good gauge when you strip the wire to put in the wago

I usually use the thickness of my Kleins as a stripping gauge.

 

[peter d]

I usually use the thickness of my Kleins as a stripping gauge.

I don't need a stripping gauge because I can do everything with laser beam precision by eye.

 

[Mr. Wizard]

I don't need a stripping gauge because I can do everything with laser beam precision by eye.

That's what the guy at the repair shop told me while I was dropping off my torpedo level to have it calibrated :grin:

 

[LarryFine]

I don't need a stripping gauge because I can do everything with laser beam precision by eye.

"We can rebuild him! We have the technology!"

 

[weressl]

One of my bigger gripes about them is that you need to skin the wire pretty accurately. At least with wire nuts, if you skin them too long, you can chomp off the whole bundle to the right length with your pliers. Not much tolerance with the Wago's.

In general, equipment engineered in EU mainly follows German engineering practices. German engineering practices rely on 'meisters' - highly trained craftsman that (used to) superwise all installations. They also have elaborate training and instructions.

As you say Wago has little tolerance for error in installation and relies on the skill of the ionstaller for proper fuctioning. Equipemt engineered in the US - especially which can be in the hands of DIY also - has a much hoigher allowance for ignorent or inadvertent installation errors.

 

[B4T]

Anyone know why Halo is using them in their recessed lights?? I would guess Cooper lighting.. the company that owns Halo. is going to start mass producing them.

 

[peter d]

Anyone know why Halo is using them in their recessed lights??

Probably because they are a selling feature, and selling features build value into a product (whether real or imagined) and value helps the bottom line.

 

[weressl]

Probably because they are a selling feature, and selling features build value into a product (whether real or imagined) and value helps the bottom line.

Yep, it is like cupholders.

 

[LarryFine]

Yep, it is like cupholders.

That's true. I bought my computer because it came with two of them.

 

[cparrott1984]

One of my bigger gripes about them is that you need to skin the wire pretty accurately. At least with wire nuts, if you skin them too long, you can chomp off the whole bundle to the right length with your pliers. Not much tolerance with the Wago's.

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